Not that fast? vr6.....:@

[mike 6]

Just had some kid tell me he'd heard vr's 'dont go' and aint that fast.

wish id asked what he dove probli a 1.0 fiesta or something, anybody else heard this. i think it stems from people comparing them to big peformace cars like supras and Evos

[tubby 0]

In the grand scheme of things standard vr6`s aint fast i dont mind though and would have my vr over an evo or scooby any day

[craggsy 91]

Usually people that say they aint fast, have never been in one let alone owned one.

Why is it that a VR will sit behind BMW 330i all day long on motorway and people say they are fast

[richievr 1]

i think they don't feel as fast as they are -they are kind of deceptively quick

they don't have that turbo kick in the back as the boost comes in .

much more a progressive power - they just pull and pull and pull..

also out of the power band i think the vr is quite sluggish, but in the power band they are awesome and they have the best sound of any hatchback i've ever been in!!!!!!!!!!!

mofo - you should have taken him out in it for a "spin"!!

[purple highline monster 0]

or knocked him out and told his mates he wears womens underwear! the vr6 a rocket it aint but its plenty fast enough to upset 20k plus cars being produced now!

[dubloke 4]

tbf they aint all that dependant on what you compare it to! the gearing is too long to be a traffic light gp winner and they're quite heavy around town compared to cars like saxos/106's/205 etc. besides the standard suspension set up compared to the cars mentioned before is total garbage in the sports stakes! only a well sorted,properly maintained vr with a good suspension kit will embarass a lot of machinery in given cirumstances.i've dealt out a fair few spankings to cars you'd think much quicker, or on a par, the likes of bmw 6's, a couple of underdriven cossies, my mates z4, loads of ctr's,coupe of r32's, 4motion anythings but also had my fair share of kickings to from less deceptive cars than a vr, likes of mitsi legacy's, standard pulsars, a mazda liftback 4x4 shitbox, a coupe of early mitsi lancers. its all down to the situation and driver of the other cars tbh, but overall the vr is a good all rounder but by no means the performance cars that some believe, or the slow old boats that others will say either!

[Luke 0]

Usually people that say they aint fast' date=' have never been in one let alone owned one.

Why is it that a VR will sit behind BMW 330i all day long on motorway and people say they are fast

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i raced a 330ci down the strip at volksvest & dun it,i ran 15.52 & the 330 ran 16.1,i would of killed him on a long run,only got zorst & filter 2 so im basically standard!

[Luke 0]

oh yea may i ad sumfin else...WOT A WAN*ER!!!

[mike 6]

but also had my fair share of kickings to from less deceptive cars than a vr' date=' likes of mitsi legacy's,

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Not heard of a mitsi legacy? do you mean subaru?

i did say to him they do shift but the standard suspension is crap. cudnt really be bothered to argue. i was neck and neck with a scooby on the motorway at some silly speeds back from northwest meet wich suprised me

iv also heard this from a guy that baught a VR after a scooby and he said it wasnt quick enough but he liked the supercharged one his mate had.

[antera309 3]

The only Golfs made in the 14 years since that can beat a VR6 are the R32 and mk5 GTi. That's not a bad record by anyone's standards.

But Scooby STIs, BMW M3s, Mitsi Evos, RX7 Turbos & Skylines are in a different league of performance and always have been. They are also in a different leauge of running costs!!! LOL

[goonersteve 0]

But Scooby STIs' date=' BMW M3s, Mitsi Evos, RX7 Turbos & Skylines are in a different league of performance and always have been.

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I can't understand why some people put VR's in the same bracket as these type of cars when comparing performance?? *-) I mean, it's all down to what you're comparing it to. The only fair way to compare it is with other hatchbacks from a similar age.....and the VR destroys most of them!

[vr6madmike 0]

All I know is that its fast enough for me, im happy with mine dont care what anyone else says!

[Luke 0]

The only Golfs made in the 14 years since that can beat a VR6 are the R32 and mk5 GTi. That's not a bad record by anyone's standards.

mk5 gti i think not :-p i raced a lovely dark blue mk5 gti a few saturdays back,we dun bout 3 runs 2gether side by side drag stip style! 1st & 2nd gear we was 2gether but in 3rd i started pullin on him,after he drove up 2 me & asked me if i ad a charger,i laughed & told him that im near standard,he said thats 1 quick vr u got their m8,made my nite

[apd 0]

in standard form a vr has a shit load of torque compared to its modern rivals[170-190 depending on health/run in],as they soon find out.the standard suspension lets them down.but sc/turboed with suspension set up its a match for most of anteras list.

[Ciaran 4]

one of my mates recently bought an evo 7 and yes it's in a different league he gets 150 miles tops to £45 when hammering it it cost 4 times what my car cost his insurace is 4 times what mine is and recently bought new disks and pads for the front only and it cost £450 plus fitting so no comparison

[dstyrrell 0]

As some of you guys might have read i have been smoked by a mini and a couple of other more modern cars, however i love my VR to bits i think VR's are plenty quick enough. if you want more power and you're VR is in good working order get it supercharged which is what i'm definatly going to do when i've got my list of problems sorted.

[mike 6]

The only Golfs made in the 14 years since that can beat a VR6 are the R32 and mk5 GTi. That's not a bad record by anyone's standards.

there was a mk2 16v g60 syncro that was 210bhp :-p , germany only.

alot of people dont even know what a vr6 is....i get alot of 'what engines in that'? and is it as fast as a gti. im hanging out with the wrong people

[purple highline monster 0]

at the end of the day its a VW not some fragile japanese or malaysian attempt at an affordable reliable car, yeah a skyline might be faster, but then its faster than loads of stuff, a scooby might be faster accelerating, but its just like the ford escort used to be! every c+++s got one! if you want to run a decent car on a budget it has to be from "ZEE FARZER LAND" imo, the build quility and over engineered parts make German cars solid reliable cars with none of the frailties of the jap/malaysian stuff mentioned, and i want to get in my car and drive it, not tell some penis how fast i went around a corner yesterday but i cant do it today coz its clutch or brakes have gone etc etc, the only people who big up the jap/malaysian stuff are people trying to justify to themselves that those few extra horse power is worth having a s++t built fragile car for! AND DONT FORGET TRACTOR DEALERS USED TO IMPORT SUBARU!!!

[dubloke 4]

but also had my fair share of kickings to from less deceptive cars than a vr' date=' likes of mitsi legacy's,

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Not heard of a mitsi legacy? do you mean subaru?

no, i did mean mitsi, just lancer, not legacy! lol

[dubloke 4]

the only people who big up the jap/malaysian stuff are people trying to justify to themselves that those few extra horse power is worth having a s++t built fragile car for! AND DONT FORGET TRACTOR DEALERS USED TO IMPORT SUBARU!!!

i think you'll find the jap scene is growing to a scale that vw used to be at a few years back, vw's have been around much longer than most performance jap cars now so, as you'd expect, the following would be much larger, that said, the more modern jap cars are ultra reliable, even when tuned properly, and tho some of the trim in them is well suspect the do represent excellent value for money in the performance per bang stakes. its not a case of just a few extra horse power, in many cases its a lot of horsepower and if thats what you want then its an easy way to make a lot of fun in a car. the vr's, tho quick enuff are inherintly more expensive than most cars to tune unless you go the forced induction route. i'm not knocking the cars at all, hence the reason i've had mine ages now, what i am saying is just because the vr is quick for what it is doesnt mean there aren't other cars out there that dont have equal or better performance for the money, regardless of build quality, and some people prefer speed per pound than anything else. i have the utmost respect for anyone wanting to build 500bhp+ machines whatever the car. the kev styling of some leaves me cringing, but each to their own i feel!

[richievr 1]

alot of people dont even know what a vr6 is....i get alot of 'what engines in that'? and is it as fast as a gti. im hanging out with the wrong people

i have had people ask me " a v6 in a golf ???? who put that in for you ???"

when i replied with "volkswagen" they said - " blimey that must have cost you a bit!!!"

dumbasses

[goonersteve 0]

alot of people dont even know what a vr6 is....i get alot of 'what engines in that'? and is it as fast as a gti. im hanging out with the wrong people

i have had people ask me " a v6 in a golf ???? who put that in for you ???"

when i replied with "volkswagen" they said - " blimey that must have cost you a bit!!!"

dumbasses

Oh deary deary me! 8-)

[harry 0]

its the rep mobiles that hack me right off.to them its just 'an old golf, move over' it has dawned on me that over my 7 year vr ownership that perhaps ive realised they are no longer up there like i always thought they were, which is sad.times change, and its the diesel brigade who seem intent on exploiting this.

[IbiVR 0]

VR6 is a great engine, but not tuned to anywhere near its potential really.

It was never sold as a GTI in the Uk, Its a great all round engine, but was never really intended to be a racer.

That said you can rag it as much as you like and its stong enough to hold together - OK these other jap cars can be quicker, more powerful for less cc, but drive it hard and come back in 10 years with your original engine and it'll probably be a different story.

Plus if you really wanna wipe the floor with them just add £2k - be it heavily worked NA, or turbo / sc.

[IbiVR 0]

And its the diesel brigade who seem intent on exploiting this.

For my 1200 miles a week i do run a deisel - Used to be a PD 150 Bora, now is the 140 GT Mk5. reasonable power, 230lb/ft tourque, but changing at 3500/4000 makes for a lifeless, uninteresting drive imo.

To have any sort of entertainment in it you have to drive it hard, which for me retuns an average 36mpg. May as well run a vr tbh.

Quick?, yes-ish, great up hills? yes, great on the motorway? yes.

Boring? yes.

Tom.