VR6BOY 2 Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Really nice kev hey do you own a share in sp turbo now ??LOL Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 LOL, no, but I am a 'valued' customer though, which earns a few perks! Link to post Share on other sites
gavinvr6 0 Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 this sound interesting, would it be worth trying this on a standard engine even if just to get shot of the troublesome oe coil pack, also can a person with mitens for hands and the brains of a wooly hat (ie.. me) fit this lot? Link to post Share on other sites
VR6BOY 2 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 LOL' date=' no, but I am a 'valued' customer though, which earns a few perks![/quote']LMAO kev, yeah i just bought msd coils too and a gruven bracket so about 1 week and playtime LOL Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Yeah me too. Got to wait for my car to come back from Stealth before I can play!Gavin, yes it's dead easy for woolly headed mitten wearers! Quite a few people find the engine is nicer with these coils. Idles better, better economy and better general drivability. I just like the fact the coils are cheap and easy to replace. £25 for a blown MSD coil once in a while, compared with £180+VAT for the VW one. It's a no brainer really.Just need to wait for Tom's coil amplifier. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6BOY 2 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Just need to wait for Tom's coil amplifier.fuel pump died yesterday too /sad mode Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Bummer. I've been using the Sytec pump which Stealth sell for about 90 quid and that's been superb so far, no shortage of fuel! Link to post Share on other sites
VR6BOY 2 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 yeah i was onto vince about one earlier on in the week and aquamist too so will be ordered shortly Link to post Share on other sites
gavinvr6 0 Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Yeah me too. Got to wait for my car to come back from Stealth before I can play!Gavin' date=' yes it's dead easy for woolly headed mitten wearers! Quite a few people find the engine is nicer with these coils. Idles better, better economy and better general drivability. I just like the fact the coils are cheap and easy to replace. £25 for a blown MSD coil once in a while, compared with £180+VAT for the VW one. It's a no brainer really.well in that case when your ready tom put me down for what ever i'll need pls mateJust need to wait for Tom's coil amplifier.[/quote'] Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 MSD do their own amplifiers too, just depends how soon you guys want to get it up and running. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6BOY 2 Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Msd do amplifiers too hmmm i must check them out any idea of a part number kev ? Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Sorry, not off hand chap. I'd need to look into it! Link to post Share on other sites
VR6BOY 2 Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 No problem kev, I have recieved my msd coils from summit racing yesterday it lists a part number 8870 as a coil interface module could be worth a try. LOL will need 3 of them Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Yeah this is him ->Thing is though, the 8870 is fed by the DIS 2 digital ignition box, so the modules themselves probably don't do the amplifying....they just hold the coils. Can get a bit pricey if you get the DIS 2 aswell :-)I have emailed MSD to get an idea from them what current the amplifier needs to give and the best coil-on-time duration in microseconds.Unfortunately I need to move on this and Tom isn't on here often enough to answer our queries. Link to post Share on other sites
Bazmcc 0 Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Just a thought guys - as soon as this is worked out would it be possible to orgasnise a group buy. It would be nice to get some answers from MSD as they should know the best setup with their own products. It'd be great to have a group buy for the whole kit. Mainly as everything could be ordered in one go and save people chasing up different components. I reckon there could be a fair bit of interest too.Baz Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 I think the main problem with the MSDs run from the VW amplifier is you can't adjust the coil on time. If it's too long for the MSD coils, they'll eventually burn out. The advantage of standalone ECUs is you can reduce the coil on time because with a stronger spark across a bigger gap, you can get away with a shorter spark duration.But in terms of a GB, once Tom has signed off his amplifier, I'm sure he will then be in a position to sell complete MSD coilpack kits.In the meantime, it's pretty easy to get the coils and HEI lead ends from Summit and the bracket from Gruvenparts and then add Tom's amp on when it's ready. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6BOY 2 Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 kev thats exactly how i am doing it,gruven delivered today and summit on monday so this is me Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 MSD recommend 2000ms coil time for the GM towers. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6BOY 2 Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Hmmmm time to go hunting for more info Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I've ordered those 8870 bases aswell mate. I wasn't too keen on the idea of poking spades into the Coils in case they vibrated out. It's going to be one huge assembly though, LOL! Link to post Share on other sites
VR6BOY 2 Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 LOL i didnt like the idea of the spades just sitting there in the sockets of the coils either so i have ordered them also Link to post Share on other sites
purpledragon 0 Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Here's a cat amongst pigeons guys, will these work on the 24v V6? I need some for the golf. Also, will I need the amp, or can it be changed in the 4mo ecu?Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
VR6BOY 2 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Yes they can be used on a 24v afaik, i think that you might need to wait for toms amplifier just like the rest of us using standard ecus. Link to post Share on other sites
purpledragon 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Tom, pull your bloody finger out lolHow long matey? Im in need!!! Link to post Share on other sites
VR6BOY 2 Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 LOL stan these things cant really be pushed, i would rather wait untill tom is happy to sell them on when he knows the amplifier is up to the job Link to post Share on other sites
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