FishWick 21 Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Thanx Kev. The intension was to go Woessner all the way actually. But I got this for a ok price' date=' right when I had some left over money.. hehe.I asume it will hold up, and the Wiseco's looks very nice in real life. Im still gonna run the C2 42# setup, so 19-20psi should be easy in 2009.See if the C2 630# setup will arrive in the future.[/quote']Wiseco or Wossner, you can't go wrong with either! Wiseco make some very nice pistons.I went for the Wossner because the guy that designed the VR6 Turbo ones has a VR6 T himself :-)Porsche use Wossner in the race engines too, so I guess they have a good record, which is good enough for me!Good luck with yours. I wish I'd fitted H rods when I had the chance because the stock ones aren't balanced that well from the factory, oh well, I'll wait for a stock one to bend first! Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Thanx. After talking to some VR6 Turbo owners in Sweden and C2 Motorsports, I found out that 9:1 is not the best CR to use when the boost is getting high. With the Wiseco and a stock headspacer I will get 9:1 But a Swedish friend had just mapped a 9:1 VR6 Turbo. And beyond 500whp the exhaust temp was just going up, with no whp increase. 8.5:1 is perfect for a VR6 Turbo. So im gonna fit a 9:1 C2 spacer. Ending up with 8:1Chris at C2 told me, it would be a "safe" way to go. And im sure it is. R32 brakes are next on the shopping list. Then I have alot off work to do on my head. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Will 0 Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Some nice parts you've been collecting, car will be a good one when its finished.What clutch are you going to use with the 02M? Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I think im gonna go for a Southbend stage 4 incl flywheel. Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted January 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 New US order has been sent.Here is what I ordered:1. Clutchnet x2 red pressure plate, 4 puck solid hub disc and a fourseasion flywheel for 2.8 24V fwd.2. Tstat housing and a 70C termostat for 24V.3. Complete engine block gasket set.4. Glyco complete bearing kit.5. Timing chain kit6. Peloquin 02M fwd diff7. Schimmel Performance head spacer that Bill talked to me so warm about:) So I will get 8.4:1, instead of 9:18. Siemens 630cc injectors.So its just to sit and wait for parts, so the rebuild can begin.Parts that needs to wait, but are coming in hopefully before the snow goes away:C2 Motorsport 630cc module. Not sure if its gonna be 1 fuel modul, or 2 modules so I can run E85.Dutchbuild 02M converted gear mounts.DSS 02M to mk3 VR6 axels.Mk4 jubileum 180hk GTI with 02M. The axel hub and all the small parts that follows.Used Mk4 332mm brakes. IF my wheels fits. I know 17" fits, but not sure if the Mito's fit.All the crap that I have forgot. Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 SP Turbo headspacer. 8.4:1 Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Nice!Thanx. After talking to some VR6 Turbo owners in Sweden and C2 Motorsports' date=' I found out that 9:1 is not the best CR to use when the boost is getting high. With the Wiseco and a stock headspacer I will get 9:1 But a Swedish friend had just mapped a 9:1 VR6 Turbo. And beyond 500whp the exhaust temp was just going up, with no whp increase. 8.5:1 is perfect for a VR6 Turbo. So im gonna fit a 9:1 C2 spacer. Ending up with 8:1[/quote']I would agree that 9:1 is a little high for high boost.What turbo and wastegate did your Swedish friend use?I've seen a similar situation where more boost = increased EGT with no extra power and it was because the wastegate was too small. Once the target boost pressure had been achieved, the waste exhaust couldn't escape fast enough and backed up into the cylinders, which restricts the intake flow and also hikes EGTs.Always go with a bigger wastegate than you need, unless you're using a small turbo and want max boost :-)That might not be your friend's problem, but thought I would mention it just in case! Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Im not sure what WG he used. Im gonna ask. Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Got some more in the mail...24V Tstat housing with 70C termostatUSA 12V MK4 wires. Notice the way you can loosen the wires without a tool.24V VR6 Light flywheelClutchnet 4 puck, without springs. Its a very good reason why I choose Clutchnet. It can handle ALOT of power, and the price's are good. Its been tested on several VR6 Turbo dragsters in Sweden. I have a Clutchnet pressure plate also, coming in the mail soon.The way to sucsess for FWD cars... Peloquin 02M LSD diff with ARP bolt kit.Bearings and engine partsNeed new rings... Its 10x17" et13 right now :$ Link to post Share on other sites
Bobtrude 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 didnt u do your gliders and chains like 2 years ago?Ps what do u do with the chain tension when using the headspacer? Link to post Share on other sites
sharky_70 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 nice lot of kit you got there Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 nice lot of kit you got thereIts taken awhile to get all this crap. But its starting to take shape.Here are the new toy today:Sachs/Clutchnet pressure plaateUnder beneath this disk' date=' it said Sachs. So its a hybrid pressure plate.[img']http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/Maiden-VR6/OZMito9x17001-2.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Car havent been used since July 2008. Broken gearbox, and a company that have their staff on hospital.....But anyways, stuff can happen, and Im very exited to start doing some real work on it again.Pictures of a real good buddy of mine. It should be even better after some soap and a shower:)Here is a pic of the HORRIBLE oil return hose, that came with the Kinetic kit! It was hard as plastic, and broke right off when I twisted it with my hands. Broke off like hard plastic. DANGEROUS to use!!! Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Is your turbo oil feed at 45 degrees to the verticle? Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 The turbo oil feed you see on the pics is what it has been since 2007. Is it wrong? Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Wrong isnt the right word. Turbo producers suggest that the line between the oil feed/drain shouldnt be any more than 15 degrees from the verticle. Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I see. Im gonna fix it. Oil feed line was a little tight as well. Gonna get a 45 degrees bend there. Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 02M mounts from C2 is ordered. DSS 02M axels are ordred. Inspection on my stock engine. It looked really good. After 3 years off boost, it looked good.Exept this crap, that was replced in 2004Stock rods/pistonsA small crack between to piston rings.. Picutre dont show itStock head looked fine:Crank looked fineBlock looked fine:Extra strong soap, before warm high pressure waterOk, I delivered the block, pistons, rods, bearings and the crank for rebuild. The block is going into a acid bath for 2 days, then painted black. Bore up from 81mm to 82.5mm.Then but the block togheter with all measurements and torque specs Link to post Share on other sites
Bobtrude 0 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Cool so do u have my headspacer now;). Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Your C2Motorsports 8.5:1 headspacer was in the washing macine the last time I saw it. So yes, you can send me the money for it The guys at Motor teknikk had alot off goodies laying around in the shop. After the acid bath the block was like new. Like you took it from the factory. Everything incl oil is gone they told me.So this months word is: Im broke Link to post Share on other sites
Bobtrude 0 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 He he I understand, that has happend to me before aswell:). Call me so I can get your Info Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Good work!!Your oil hose problem is exactly what happened to my water hoses that fed the turbo, rubber just isn't up to the job long term! Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted March 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Thanx!Good that you say that Kevin, cause im not sure what route to use in the GT35 water line... Hoses are the easy way, but steel pipes are the best way? Lets see what we try. Not my biggest concern right now. Key word for March month is: Im broke:) Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Yeah I'm broke too!!Metal hard lines are best, but I'm trying PTFE lined braided first and if that goes, I'll be going stainless hard line!! Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Still waiting on my engine...But anyways, people like picture's. So here are a few..I hope NO MORE brake pads are gonna go up in flames.. Because here they did!So, to beat the problem, we need to look higher up in the VAG system:)334mm R32 brakes vs 288mm OBD2 VR6 brakes:Some sand blasted engine parts, ready for paint.C2Motorsports.co.uk 02M gear mount/ adapter02M parts to be fitted, so I can begin tranforming the box from awd to fwd:Erik is a guy in Sweden that are doing the same 02M build as me. So he made me this aluminium piece you see here:Some off you might remember a picture off my 9.5x17" OZ wheel with 215/40-17" tire?Well, here is how the Potenza tire looked like afterwards:Old vs new sensor:And the C2 02M adapter test fitted: Link to post Share on other sites
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