antera309 3 Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 I've just installed an MDF stealth shelf in the VR. Works lovely, except that the pegs on the tailgate aren't strong enough to hold the straps that lift it up when the tailgate is opened. They just get ripped out of their sockets.Has anyone else had the same thing? How did you get around it? Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 i got round it by not having a stealth shelf...or shelf speakers...cause they sound cr*p!maybe use a bolt instead? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olly_K Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 i dunno, a good set of 6x9's on a MDF stealthy sounds good, and yeah, a bolt also sounds good Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 no way...you need top speakers at the front...you don't really need speakers at the back. 6x9's just confuse things. Link to post Share on other sites
tommy 0 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 i agree olly.....6x9 on an mdf shelf sound great....ive got them on my mk1 & 2 8o) .................acf am i correct in saying you feel a 2 speaker system......is better :? ?! ...................or do you just mean on the rear shelf of mk3s there is no need for them ?! [ Edited Sun Jul 25 2004, 01:45AM ][ Edited Sun Jul 25 2004, 01:47AM ] Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 well, (from the front seat passengers point of view) rear speakers aren't necesary. but a couple of coaxals in the rear sides should suffice.6x9's don't sound very good (whatever people say, i've yet to here a nice pair...and i've heard some pretty expensive ones). also, havign shelf speakers is like putting a 'nick me' sticker on the windows.even a stealth shelf is obvious to anyone who knows anything about cars.these are just my views of course...if you're happy thats all that matters of course. Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 i partly agree with acf imo 6x9s can sound nice but i also really dont see the point in fittin them in a golf the front speakers r by far the most impotant for sound the rears bassically just fill it out a bit get the best u can afford in the front and some reasonable coaxials or componants in the rear i personally wouldnt bother with 6x9s in mine Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted July 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Agreed about the front speakers, it's these that give you all your stereo imaging. Got some 3-way components for the front on order!! Bass units in the doors, midrange in the dash and angled tweeters going on the A-pillars.The Infinity 6x9s I've got on the shelf sound great IMO. If they didn't, I would have got rid of them. The MDF shelf now gives me the option to add a sub later on (the standard parcel shelf wouldn't take the weight and I wouldn't want to use up loads of boot space with a box)What setup have u got, acf? Components in front doors and rear side panels?I agree that a bolt would be the best way of securing the shelf straps. Trouble is, there's no thread to screw the bolt into. Some sort of spread washer perhaps?[ Edited Sun Jul 25 2004, 11:11AM ] Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 i've got calbier components in the front (allstealthy, tweeter in dash, mid range in door). alpine components in rear (not very good, were in front when i bought the car, but as i don't have to sit in the back i don't care really...will get coaxials or another set of caliber components for the rare sometimes). the a JL 10W0 in boot in sealed box....sounds perfect, is stealthy, and theres plenty of boot space left.[ Edited Sun Jul 25 2004, 11:31AM ] Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted July 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Nice setup. More tricky to do in a 5-door, though (having to thread OFC cable through the rear door multiplugs etc.) Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 The MDF shelf now gives me the option to add a sub later on (the standard parcel shelf wouldn't take the weight and I wouldn't want to use up loads of boot space with a box) be sure to get an open air sub or make a sealed box around the speaker a normal sub wouldnt appreciate bein left unsealed Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Nice setup. More tricky to do in a 5-door' date=' though (having to thread OFC cable through the rear door multiplugs etc.)[/quote']totally not worth the hassle...i'm using the original cables. Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 from the head unit or r they amped up? Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 headunit...thats the beauty of caliber components, they sound great off the head unit.i'm not big into sounds...i just like nice sound quality, which mine has. Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 fair enough but u dont get any hiss with amps u dont need to hav it turned up either Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olly_K Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 i think "amping" speakers up is the only way to go really, although with these modern head units kciking out 55w x4 its not too much of a problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 thats not 55w rms its more like 27 rms is THE number u want mpo or pmpo or any other can b very misleading i saw an amp that said 2000 watts when i read the rms it was somethin like 2x 25 watts rms but yes top end head units sound very good pioneer dehp9600 for example hehe Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 fair enough but u dont get any hiss with amps u dont need to hav it turned up eitherevery system i've heard that has the speakers running off amps has lost some of the 'warmth' of the music if you know what i mean....probably is too perfect, i mean vinyls sound great with a bit of crackle! Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 hehe sound quality is very subjective if u like it stick with it Link to post Share on other sites
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