Mangold 0 Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Personally wouldn't be seen driving one even though they go like stink. I'll stick to the VR in the slow lane.you driven one? they are seriously nice to drive (and thats comparing to a vr6 which itself is a nice drive!)...so sure footed.Never driven one, would like to out of interest. But as I was saying its the look that gets me! Nasty...... Link to post Share on other sites
gazbrook 0 Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 I thought the rb5 was 240 bhp too minty, thats not equivalent to a P1 is it ??? As for whats better than a vr6 and costs less than 10 grand...........................NOTHING!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 ok...may have 240bhp...its a fair bit more than the basic turbo though. yeah, you could have two vr6's for £10k of course.mangold - have a go in one (phone up a scooby dealers that have some in and 'pretend' you're thinking of buying one )..i don't like them for the looks Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 has to be 22b for me i love the colour Link to post Share on other sites
malsvr6 0 Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 under engineered,japanese turbocharged dogshit!!! sorry guys i worked for subaru once always blowin up Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olly_K Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 yeah i agree they dont look the best, build quality isnt brilliant but the speed is. Link to post Share on other sites
tommy 0 Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 under engineered' date='japanese turbocharged dogshit!!! sorry guys i worked for subaru once always blowin up[/quote']lol....a good friend of mine also works for subaru and said exactly the same thing! Link to post Share on other sites
Mangold 0 Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 ok...may have 240bhp...its a fair bit more than the basic turbo though. yeah' date=' you could have two vr6's for £10k of course.mangold - have a go in one (phone up a scooby dealers that have some in and 'pretend' you're thinking of buying one )..i don't like them for the looks [/quote']Not a bad idea, a test pilot for the day. Link to post Share on other sites
gazbrook 0 Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 has anybody looked at a Subaru engine?? They look a proper mess Link to post Share on other sites
Mangold 0 Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 matches the outside then! Link to post Share on other sites
gazbrook 0 Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 lol @ mangold Link to post Share on other sites
simey 0 Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 Subaru's are quick but if your in a crash, I'd be in the VR any day... Link to post Share on other sites
apd 0 Posted July 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 does anyone rate the nissan sunny/pulsar GTIR.A lot of car for little money,or jap crap?4WD,220bhp got to be pretty useful as a playing out toy you wouldn't want to share! Link to post Share on other sites
ingham 5 Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 a mate had one ,didnt rate it much Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 Subaru's are quick but if your in a crash' date=' I'd be in the VR any day... [/quote']to be honest, i actually think the scooby is safer...design is newer remember. Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 ok, sorrry chaps, I love my vr6 but lets be real here, the scooby is in a different league in terms of performance, it has acceleration we can only dream of, the handling is superior to most things I have ever experienced, nothing could be further from the truth with the vr. Mounting a flat four boxer low down in the front gives the scooby a nice low centre of gravity, this combined with four wheel drive and rally bred suspension (wrc winning combination .....think about it) makes it a formidable package. The vr has a massive engine mounted forward of the front driving wheels which is why its poor handling is an absolute legend. Wouldn't want to comment on build quality, but lets remember who came top in recent reliabilty surveys (it wasn't vw...) Theres something very reassuring about the vws all round abilities and its nice to drive a car that people don't assume is being driven by a d*ckhead but there can be no comparison imo on performance. Anyone who thinks the vr has any chance on any road under reasonably legal circumstances with competent drivers against a scooby has obviously never been in both cars....I do love the vr though :-) Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 ok' date=' sorrry chaps, I love my vr6 but lets be real here, the scooby is in a different league in terms of performance, it has acceleration we can only dream of, the handling is superior to most things I have ever experienced, nothing could be further from the truth with the vr. Mounting a flat four boxer low down in the front gives the scooby a nice low centre of gravity, this combined with four wheel drive and rally bred suspension (wrc winning combination .....think about it) makes it a formidable package. The vr has a massive engine mounted forward of the front driving wheels which is why its poor handling is an absolute legend. Wouldn't want to comment on build quality, but lets remember who came top in recent reliabilty surveys (it wasn't vw...) Theres something very reassuring about the vws all round abilities and its nice to drive a car that people don't assume is being driven by a d*ckhead but there can be no comparison imo on performance. Anyone who thinks the vr has any chance on any road under reasonably legal circumstances with competent drivers against a scooby has obviously never been in both cars....I do love the vr though :-)[/quote']exactly my thoughts...but i think the handling could do with a slight tweeking on them...but a lot less than the vr6 needs. Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 does anyone rate the nissan sunny/pulsar GTIR.A lot of car for little money' date='or jap crap?4WD,220bhp got to be pretty useful as a playing out toy you wouldn't want to share![/quote']i used to yearn for sunny gtir subtle very light and bloody rapid i bet but yeh they do seem built like shite Link to post Share on other sites
Valver 0 Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Personally I'm not that big a fan of the Jap rockets...so I'd go for either E36 BMW M3 Evo, C36/43 AMG Merc, Audi S3/S4 or even big power S2 coupe!..... Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olly_K Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 eat this, how can you call a pulsar "subtle" ?Looked into an audi s2 but they are getting very old now. But a least they are built to last. V quick, too Link to post Share on other sites
six appeal 53 Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 ok' date=' sorrry chaps, I love my vr6 but lets be real here, the scooby is in a different league in terms of performance, it has acceleration we can only dream of, the handling is superior to most things I have ever experienced, nothing could be further from the truth with the vr. Mounting a flat four boxer low down in the front gives the scooby a nice low centre of gravity, this combined with four wheel drive and rally bred suspension (wrc winning combination .....think about it) makes it a formidable package. The vr has a massive engine mounted forward of the front driving wheels which is why its poor handling is an absolute legend. Wouldn't want to comment on build quality, but lets remember who came top in recent reliabilty surveys (it wasn't vw...) Theres something very reassuring about the vws all round abilities and its nice to drive a car that people don't assume is being driven by a d*ckhead but there can be no comparison imo on performance. Anyone who thinks the vr has any chance on any road under reasonably legal circumstances with competent drivers against a scooby has obviously never been in both cars....I do love the vr though :-)[/quote']Totally understand where your coming from here mate, but I have raced many of my work colleagues in Impreza's and although they have an advantage getting off the line, 4 wheel drive and much better gearing, once moving there is very little if anything in it, against my VR. In fact once you get above 60 the VR comes alive and once your in 3 figures the Jap boys where amazed that they were actually struggling to keep up!All where trying, and now give my little Dub lots of respect, as I do for there Jap Crap, but I still think they are externally ugly, internally bland and too plasticy, and the engines poorly laid out/design and ultimately very unreliable (even they admit that my dub is so much more refined, better looking and much more reliable, as well as all adoring the sound!)Although I have heard the later Mitsibushi Evo's are the kiddy to have according to the Jap boys at work!Its a pointless discussion really, as each individual wants different things from the car they drive, so at the end of the day its more about what YOU want, as opposed to what is publically deemed better! Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Absolutely...:-) I agree its more about the whole package, I too find scoobies ugly and a bit plastic, the vr6 is as you say refined and good looking, what is worth considering is that your particular car is lowered, stiffened, riding on 17inch split rims and a top of the range model and very good looking ;-) It has, as you say 205BHP before the addition of the schrick so its not exactly standard, if you spent the same ammount of money on a scooby you would have one of the highest perfomance cars on the road. A standard impreza turbo will still in my experience destroy a standard vr6 in real situations....My mate has a Celica GT4 which I think is horrendously ugly but has performance in bucketloads, so gains my respect. His car regularly destroys mine on the A Roads yet he still respects the vr, especially the sound, the torque and the refined power!! As you say its what makes YOU happy. I think the vr does a good job of many things rather than a brilliant job of one thing, guess that's why I've got one :-)...enjoy Link to post Share on other sites
kobi 0 Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 With a VR like yours Simon, I'm not surprised your happy Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 i love the celica gt4 i think its 1 of the best lookin cars aroundil get me coat!! Link to post Share on other sites
vr6Bass 0 Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 don't slate it for being a fiat but the fiat coupe 20v turbo plus will probaly be my next car, it has 2 litre turbo 5 cylinder engine producing 220hp and 310nm of tourque, it does 0-60 in 6 seconds and tops out at 155mph and you can get one for way less than 10 grand, they call it the poor mans ferrari it also designed pinafirina 8o) Link to post Share on other sites
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