Phat VR6 3 Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Could I rotex supercharge my VR6 and then swap it for a R32, Keeping the Rotex, brackets, charge cooler standalone ect,Or would I be wasting my money, If i want a charged mk3 would it be best to wait till i can put the R32 in there and then work with that.Will everythink swap over from my VR6 to R32, not including internal mods!Thanks bods Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 i know the v9 vortechs wont swap over as theres not enough room on the mk4 Link to post Share on other sites
adam_christie 0 Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Should do. Of course you'll need a new mounting bracket and new belt, but there are always ways and means of making things fit! You say you've got a charge cooler? Which one?Personally I'd get the engine first. Saves having to piss about making things fit twice. Link to post Share on other sites
Lizard Racing 0 Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Fit the R32 engine but run it on standalone. R32 is good for 500hp without internal mods with a Rotrex. Link to post Share on other sites
mike 6 Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 yea i agree dont waste monet fitting it to the VR engine if your deffo swappin the engine... R32 engine should be sweet but will cost a fair few quid to get it done... Link to post Share on other sites
Lizard Racing 0 Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 You can pay between £800 - £1500 for an engine. You will need an Alfa throttle setup and a front engine mount. Apart from that its fairly easy, especially if you go standalone. Link to post Share on other sites
mike 6 Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 You can pay between £800 - £1500 for an engine. You will need an Alfa throttle setup and a front engine mount. Apart from that its fairly easy' date=' especially if you go standalone. [/quote']really? suprising there isnt mire r32'd dubs outv there..would love one in a mk3 Link to post Share on other sites
Lizard Racing 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Yeah from all accounts. Will most likely attempt the swap myself in the new year. Providing I get all the bits together Andy at Storm reckons it will only take a weekend. I think you have to be fairly mechanically capable though. Using standalone management does away with the lambda and drive-by-wire issues. Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Fit the R32 engine but run it on standalone. R32 is good for 500hp without internal mods with a Rotrex. youv no idea how happy that makes me Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 what doesnt work with standalone management ie cruisecontrol mpg counter etc?? Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Fit the R32 engine but run it on standalone. R32 is good for 500hp without internal mods with a Rotrex. youv no idea how happy that makes me And me bring on the new year !!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Lizard Racing 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Yeah, I dont see MPG on my MAF with the Emerald but to be honest I dont want to see it! Forget cruise control you will never use it. Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 You'll be needing a spacer on the R32 as 11:1 Compression is too high for forced induction, but if the 12V bottom end is anything to go by, then yes, the R32 should be good for 500hp.....with ARP head and rod bolts obviously.I've read lots of cases of turboed R32s failing in catastrophic ways, mainly EIP fitted and supplied conversions, so let's hope the Rotrex is more reliable. Storm's has been going a while now, so it would seem that way.The ultimate forced induction R32 engine, in my opinion, comes from these guys :- http://www.hgp-turbo.de/vw/r32.htmlEverything is OE or better quality. Very expensive, but very worth every penny! Link to post Share on other sites
xyber 1 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 ^^^^^^^^^ expensive, but bomb proof and for the money near enough unbeatable! Worth saving for!I wouldnt ever go near EIP, I stumbled across a site set up to bitch about them coz they are so bad!http://eipsucks.com/ Some of the stories were unbelievable! Imcompetant staff, crap/bodged work, shady billing, things sold as new when they where 2nd hand and from not just a few customers either. Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted November 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 That got people talking lol, Didn't exspect so much replyShould do. Of course you'll need a new mounting bracket and new belt' date=' but there are always ways and means of making things fit! You say you've got a charge cooler? Which one?Personally I'd get the engine first. Saves having to piss about making things fit twice.[/quote']Thats what I was hoping lol. Haven't got a charge cooler yet but will be going for the schimmel."kevhaywire" uses one I think he seems to be happy with it so thats good enuff for me.Haven't realy got the money to put a R32 in aswell as a rotex, ill never get it back on the road lol, Plan was build the VR up run it on standalone,rotecx, charge cooler ect, Then when I get a R32 I should be able to get decent money for the VR, Or put it in the back of a mk1 Anyway if I wait alittle longer it looks like "lizard racing" will be able to tell me what I need to do and if its possible lol"Lizard Racing You can pay between £800 - £1500 for an engine. You will need an Alfa throttle setup and a front engine mount. Apart from that its fairly easy, especially if you go standalone. "Thats abit of a shock, Alfa throttle and engine mount? As in Alfa romao?, I know there cheep atm, Just buy one before everyones after them for projects, I can see them getting more priceyKev, Your right, Like the look of the twin turbos but I dont think they fit in a Mk3 or rado, You only have room for them in a Mk4?? Link to post Share on other sites
kadvr6 0 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 as said before, the rotrex will easily bolt onto the r32, but the bracket/belt will be no good from the 12v. theres a company in holland called R-TECH that do the brackets/belts at a very good price, its about £320 for evrything. i'm doing my rotrex conversion in the new year, c30-94 with approx 18psi (6) when/if my 12v goes pop?? i have an R32 lump waiting in my garage to go in. Link to post Share on other sites
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