permatex copper gasket spray

[antone28 0]

Hi, i just wanted to check ,Im using a spacer plate and gasket set on my vr turbo, do i spray this on all six side's of the gaskets or do i spray it on just the sides that meet the engine block and cyl head.

Thanks!

[Lizard Racing 0]

Just block and cylinder head sides.

[antone28 0]

ok ,Thanks!

[FishWick 21]

I'd do it on all 6 sides personally....

The thin metal headgaskets can leak when used on anything but perfect surfaces. The copper spray helps with that.

[Phat VR6 3]

Hi,

Im fitting a 3 layer high compression Metal head gasket , Should i use this stuff aswell or is it just for turbo charged motors,

Mines standard? Surpose it can't do anythink wrong!

[antone28 0]

Its the same principle for all engines ,this just fills up all the small imperfections on the cylinder head and block.obviously a forced induction engine is under more pressure, so this helps to stop gasket leaks.

[kadvr6 0]

Hi' date='

Im fitting a 3 layer high compression Metal head gasket , Should i use this stuff aswell or is it just for turbo charged motors,

Mines standard? Surpose it can't do anythink wrong!

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why are you doing this if your not going super/turbo??

[FishWick 21]

Sorry, I meant to say spray the permatex on 4 sides, so both gasket parts on the grey side and both sides of the spacer.

That should sort you out nicely.

For what it's worth, Stealth had a problem with the last few engines they built with oil seeping out of the head above the pulleys. That's a common leak point, but using a Victor Reinz gasket (Stealth used Elring) and the permatex, mine's been fine, but a lot of it is down to prepping. A skimmed head and thoroughly sanded block face stands a better chance of a total seal.

[Phat VR6 3]

Hi' date='

Im fitting a 3 layer high compression Metal head gasket , Should i use this stuff aswell or is it just for turbo charged motors,

Mines standard? Surpose it can't do anythink wrong!

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why are you doing this if your not going super/turbo??

Hello,

Its a high compression gasket not low compression, Im not fitting a spacer! Fitting this as you probaly know would not be good for a turbo ect,

Im fitting this as my gasket is leaking coolant so needed changing anyway. I was under the impression that these gaskets are more reliable and a higher compression on a standard engine would be an improvment to throttle response and possibly a tad bhp but im not exspecting any, Higher compression also works better with NOS which im planning on doing to give me some cheep high bhp untill im older when Im going to turbo it!

im guessing you read it wrong and thought i was making low compression

[Phat VR6 3]

(Stealth used Elring)

Thats the one they sent me Kev :-( , They could have told me. Oh well! What you recon? Should I risk it or change to the gaskit to the one your using. Dont want to do the job agian and it isn't very good if they leak. I'll be getting the head skimed and sanding my block with 600grit.

What you recon anyway, How much did yours cost, I donno how much i payed for this, did it with the card without asking lol

cheers for the help Tom

[jon@vagworx 0]

(Stealth used Elring)

Thats the one they sent me Kev :-( ' date=' They could have told me. Oh well! What you recon? Should I risk it or change to the gaskit to the one your using. Dont want to do the job agian and it isn't very good if they leak. I'll be getting the head skimed and sanding my block with 600grit.

What you recon anyway, How much did yours cost, I donno how much i payed for this, did it with the card without asking lol

cheers for the help Tom

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Change it, i've had the same problem before with the Elring ones, the victor reinz ones are about £35 iirc.

I wouldn't reccomend 600grit either, you'll end up polishing it, which isn't good. It still needs to be a bit rough, ideally like a freshly honed bore.

[Phat VR6 3]

just 80 grit then? Thanks for the help

[kadvr6 0]

yeh sorry my bad :-#

when i rang stealth last week about getting a reinz gasket, vince told me that elring even make the reinz gaskets???

[FishWick 21]

Yep, that's true. I found that out myself yesterday when I was at Stealth.

BUT.... the Elring ones sold as 'Elring' have a thin purple/red coating on them. The ones they supply to Reinz don't appear to have a coating and the Permatex bonds to it better.

One thing is for sure..... if the head is not flat alongside cyls 1 and 2, it'll never seal. Use some JB weld or get it alloy filled and machined back.