topless25 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 whats the average timescale to convert a 16valve mk3 golf to vr6 spec? Link to post Share on other sites
xyber 1 Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 sell the 16v and buy a VR, dont see the point in creating a car that could be bought in the first place, less hassle, less chance of niggling problems and the full package with A/C and heated leather etc Link to post Share on other sites
turbo_ted 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 but wheres the fun in that? Link to post Share on other sites
topless25 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 but wheres the fun in that?exactly, and seen as how the car is modded, it makes sense to methe car in question already has this done to it.....full brake upgradecoiloversfull s/s exhaustvento front end conversionfull electric/heated bmw e46 convertible seatsfull bare metal respray with some colour coding and smoothing, good condition still.i have a donor car with 55k on the clock and aircon but i wont be fitting the aircon to the valver.once this has been done it paves the way for an R32 later maybe? Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 but wheres the fun in that?exactly' date=' and seen as how the car is modded, it makes sense to me[/quote']2nd that.. once you've sent money on a car your going to loose it swaping cars... How long it takes depends on if you've done it before or know what your doing.. Ive done my brakes subframes and surpension on a 4 stud and was done in about 5 hours.. Getting the engine and box in ontop of that should take about 2-3 hours but then you've got the all the wiring, fues box and clocks ontop of that which probaly takes abit of timeOh and keep the 16v box to rob the final drive out of it.. Or aprently you can bolt the VR bell housing onto it Link to post Share on other sites
topless25 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 the fuse box and clock wiring is the same for both cars i think.and seen as how the 16 valve already has a hydraulic clutch, it should make things a little easier.i've got a little experience with engine swaps, i converted an 1100cc uno to full turbo spec in my youth lolput a mk3 golf gti 8 valve into a mk2 a few years back, converted an e36 bmw 325 to an m3 and a couple of fords and lancias in between so i'm handy with the spanners a little. Link to post Share on other sites
topless25 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Oh and keep the 16v box to rob the final drive out of it.. Or aprently you can bolt the VR bell housing onto it so could a vr6 box be bolted to a 16 valves bell housing and used on a 16v motor? Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 You should have know problems then.. Think you still need the clocks from the VR as the rev counter works different to a 4 pot.. Lucky ****** Ive got to change the pedal box in mine as it cable :-( .So it looks like all you need to do is bolt the engine box in and plug the engine wiring loom into the back of your fuse box. Plug your clocks in. plug ecu in and maybe change the key-barrel for the chip in the key to work with your ecu??16 valves are 5 stud anyway arn't they? So i recon you will do it in a good 8-10 hour day.. Maybe need to change the fuel pump? Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Oh and keep the 16v box to rob the final drive out of it.. Or aprently you can bolt the VR bell housing onto it so could a vr6 box be bolted to a 16 valves bell housing and used on a 16v motor?Im guessing so.. Never done it myself but ive hurd people say they do it.. Link to post Share on other sites
Lizard Racing 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Bell housings are both interchangeable. Link to post Share on other sites
topless25 0 Posted March 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 i have the clocks but there in km'h, should be able to change the dial faces for mph ones?didnt think the fuel pump was any different?2 wiring looms to swap as the vr has a 3 speed fan on it with seperate relay pack. Link to post Share on other sites
topless25 0 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 well its done and took me about 40 hours. included in the fitting was a sump gasket replacement, full service (obviously) on the engine with new gearbox oil and fitting the 2 looms from the vr to get full functions from the fan and the option to fit the aircon later if i want. just need to tape the 2nd loom up on the drivers inner wing as the covering that vw used has totally gone.only issue was a poor idle/stalling problem due to dirty icv and throttle body, easy fix and it was ALL well worth the effort, absolute joy to drive, shame its not mine :-( Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 looks right at home there. Link to post Share on other sites
topless25 0 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 yip, worth the effort putting it in this car i think instead of selling up.... Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Fair play to you.. Realy nice looking motor aswell. So which bits where the hardest and took the longest? Any tips ?? Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Fair play to you.. Realy nice looking motor aswell. So which bits where the hardest and took the longest? Any tips ?? Link to post Share on other sites
cabrioman 6 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 the hardest bit i found was the loom .... apart from from that is was a mk3 in to a mk3 just the new one had no roof ...... Link to post Share on other sites
topless25 0 Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 yip, as above, the loom is the hardest, especially if you fit both, tricky to get out without slackening off the servo, even harder to get back in but not impossible.fit the loom(s) before fitting the motor.fit the power steering pipe from a vr as in my case the 16v one blocked the oil filter housing (the one with a banjo fitting onto the pump that runs along the front.)vr6 power steering bottle was slightly different to the 16 valve one, looks like a non vr6 type might hit the selector, not 100% on that but it was different. Link to post Share on other sites
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