engine wont turn over.

[sanchez 0]

hey all. my car is costing me a fortune. got the starter fixed couple of weeks ago because it wasnt starting; problem solved! got in the car 2day and nothing!!!!!!!!!!!! checked voltage at battery, 12 volts. then checked power at starter 11.75 volts. surely it cant be the starter again?????????????

[cabrioman 6]

are u gettin voltage down the smaller signal wire to the starter then the key is on carnking???

[sticks 0]

maybe bad neutral connection

to the chasis,

[DMARK 0]

it could be the ignition starter switch. when turning the key into the crank position wobble the key up and down and it should start if thats your problem

[sanchez 0]

tried wiggling the key. still nothing!!!! im getting the voltage when i turn the key on the small wire to the starter. wheres does the neutral connect to the chassis?????

[cabrioman 6]

the cable goes from the starter, to the gear box, to the chassis under the battery tray to the battery.... was it a new starter or second hand ???

[sanchez 0]

brand new starter. il check the earth cable when the snow stops! do you think putting jump leads from my engine onto my van would help? getting desperate now!!

[cabrioman 6]

worth a try mate mite just be a flat battery

[sanchez 0]

tried the jump leads. tried putting a lead from the engine to the chassis. it works from a push start. im going to be bald if this carries on!!!!!!!!!!!

[cabrioman 6]

try knockin the top of the starer with a hammer mite be jammed ... check starter relay

[sanchez 0]

where is the starter relay?

[cabrioman 6]

in the fuse bored in the drivers foot well behind the cover with two green squares ..... but cant remember which one it is.... when u trun the ket to crank feel them and feel if u can feel any clicking

[sanchez 0]

it clicks. tried battering the starter aswell. still nothing. do you think it could be the starter?

[cabrioman 6]

so ur gettin battery voltage at the starter on the big cable, also getting battery voltage to the smaller wire when cranking and the earth is good yeah ?? not an auto is it ??

and it didnt help jumpin from another car no ??

[sanchez 0]

voltage at both. haven't checked the earth yet. too cold! had a lead from the engine to the chassis and then to the battery negative. still nothing!!!! gave the car a push start and everything seems ok when running.

[cabrioman 6]

check the earth lead when it gets warmer then mate

[sanchez 0]

checked earth leads and there all sound.next step will be taking the starter out i think and throwing it back at vw!!!!!!!!

[cabrioman 6]

take it off and test it first mate ... did vw fitt it or did u ???

[sanchez 0]

i fitted it. not paying some apprentice to do an easy job! maybe thats my downfall!! my car overheated last week spilled water on the fan control unit and fecked that. connected???? how do you test the starter when its off? gettin sick of pushing the car to go anywhere. neighbours must be laughing at me, im always tinkering with it!!!!!

[cabrioman 6]

take it off ... put some jump leads from the battery to the main postive conection and the earth then get a small wire and go from the main postive to the signal conection and see if it engages the starter and spins ... best to put it in a vice and watch ur fingers if it does nothin its buggered if it works theres a prob with the car mate

[cabrioman 6]

any luck yet fella ???

[sanchez 0]

too wet for that carry on. decided to down a few cold ones instead! much more appealling have you ever heard of a starter failing? my mate works at a garage and they've never heard of it.

[Dave Lea 4]

have u power probed the starter to make sure it aint the ign switch

[cabrioman 6]

i fitted 4 starters to a car once cos they had a bad batch of them

[Dave Lea 4]

this happens a lot i havefound never rule out a dogey starter