.:R32 engine into a mk3

[boyracer 0]

Hello guys just wanted to know how much effort and mods is needed to fit a .:R32 engine into a mk3?Or is it straight bolt in?Can jou run the engine with standalone mangement?

[Lizard Racing 0]

Yes and yes.

[boyracer 0]

Is there any engine mounts that need to get changed?

[Phat VR6 3]

nope, bolt it in, change exhaust manifold, Make wiring loom from standalone to engine, get mapped on rolling road.... turn key/ have fun

[mike 6]

id love to do this, fitting a charger is simpler, more powerfull tho... prob cost simlar money?

[mike 6]

asuming your fitting it to a vr, with the charger comment.....

[Phat VR6 3]

about the same money and near enough the same power. Hard decision tbf lol. R32 is going to cost more but has much more potential

BUT 500 bhp from a VR6 is the same as 500 bhp from a R32 so depends what your aim is and why your doing it, Perhaps to make a unique mk3

If you want over 500-600 bhp then you need to put a R32 in (and 4 wheel drive)

If you only want a 400 bhp FWD mk3 i don't see much point, saying that though i know what id rather have LOL

[rodney 17]

do the R36 ... b the frst...

http://www.vr6oc.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?255473.10#post_256565

[boyracer 0]

what engine code do i have to look for?

[Jamesr_VR6 0]

a R32 engine will bolt straight into a MK3 chassis?

I pressume apart from the ancillaries and loom its would be a pretty easy conversion then??

[FishWick 21]

If you stick with the standard gearbox, then yep, straight in.

The front engine mount bracket needs modifying slightly but C2 sell some bits to help with that and they also sell some lovely downpipes, which look a LOT better than other methods I've seen.

The tricky part is the management. Bosch ME7 is a thing of beauty but it needs careful deactivation of certain things for it to work properly in a conversion. Stealth Racing, VAG-Doctor and I presume C2 can all help with that.

[UnitedMotorsport 55]

Kev is right about the ECU. We can offer what is needed for engine converions which involve the ME7 ECU.

There is no need to go to standalone management to run these engines.

Immobiliser defeat and systems defeat too. We have several MK2 based cars running ME7 ECU's, all with ZERO fault codes. These include 1.8t, 24v and R32.

[Jamesr_VR6 0]

wow, well once i have my MK3 i may be doing some enquiries!!!!!!!

[jesterwalker69 0]

Kev is right about the ECU. We can offer what is needed for engine converions which involve the ME7 ECU.

There is no need to go to standalone management to run these engines.

Immobiliser defeat and systems defeat too. We have several MK2 based cars running ME7 ECU's' date=' all with ZERO fault codes. These include 1.8t, 24v and R32.

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Dont suppose you guys do VR6 to R32 conversions from scratch??

[UnitedMotorsport 55]

Dont suppose you guys do VR6 to R32 conversions from scratch??

Correct. We offer products to make it easier for the DIY approach.

[Jamesr_VR6 0]

cop outs.....

haha im only joking, I sent C2 a pm regarding this and he was very very helpful

Thanks very much matey, iw ill almsot definately be doing this (once i buy a damn MK3)

[Jamesr_VR6 0]

PS: do all the original mk3 pipes/battery/power steering pump and all the ancillaries work with the 3.2 lump or do they need changing to?

[FishWick 21]

If you use a MK5 engine, they have electric steering, so you will need an alternator bracket from a Golf 4Motion to mount your VR6 steering pump onto and then all is well. You retain the R32 alternator.

If you get a MK4 donor engine, they're hydraulic steering like the VR6, so goes straight in!

MK5 engines also have return-less fuel rails, so you can either use a MK4 fuel rail, or a 3 way remote fuel pressure regulator (in, out, return) mounted to the rail or the inner wing.

The battery location depends on what air filter you use although in the MK3 golf you might have room to mount a decent sized filter.

[Jamesr_VR6 0]

I now know what im doing with my life!!!!!

I cant beleive it bolts straight in practically!!!

[sharky_70 0]

kev when you say 'slight modification to the front mount bracket' could you clarify a bit? or C2 chime in?

im guessing it'll be pretty much the same for a 4mo lump

[Jamesr_VR6 0]

i think from what C2 pm'd me it just requires a spcaer, but comes in the form of a modified bracket from C2

[Miss-Vw 2]

Better get saving James R32 engine would be very nice, seen a mk3/R32 show car for sale not so long ago - £14,500! Sexy though.

[Jamesr_VR6 0]

its still for sale cus no-one will buy it, it was a lovely car but the interior retrim was wank, hideous colour and pretty much everything inside was standard but a different colour, nothing special really and i dont think its worth £14k!!!!

a decent R32 engine is no more than £1k, and if its as easy to fit as some say then i reckon the hwole install would come to no more than £1.5k

its definately something i will be doing though, if not for the pwoer then for the reliability

[jesterwalker69 0]

a decent R32 engine is no more than £1k' date=' and if its as easy to fit as some say then i reckon the hwole install would come to no more than £1.5k

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Bit optimistic i think fella. Been trawling eBay for awhile now keeping my eyes peeled on R32 engines. Usually looking round the £1.5-2k mark for a decent engine complete with everything u need to get the engine running near enough (keys, ign. etc etc)

Not sure how much on top u'd be paying for all the other parts like but i reckon it would be more then a monkey tbh

[Jamesr_VR6 0]

youve not been looking ahrd enough ;-)

as far as i know to isntall a R32 engine you need

Engine

NEw front mount

New downpipe

ECU

Wiring loom

I dont think you need stuff like keys / ignition barrels / or the ancillaries as its all bolt on and the ECU is matched to the existing key etc.

At least thats the impression i got from C2 when he explained it