Jamesr_VR6 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 just buy the modded bracket and should not have any issues.. Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 That's it Sharky, cheers for the pic, paints a 1000 words!Another thing I've thought of is the electric water pump. On the MK5 it sits in front of the block behind the radiator, but it's easier to just use the 12V coolant hoses and mount it in the normal place, and just extend the pump loom over to it.I don't know why VW moved the waterpumps to the front. 1.8Ts are the same. Link to post Share on other sites
Jamesr_VR6 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 ^^ as said, expect phonecalls!!! Link to post Share on other sites
sharky_70 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Kev do you know where it is on the 4mo lump? Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Not sure mate, sorry.Are you still gonna turbo your 4 mo lump? Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 The Aux water pump on a 4motion engine is on the front of the block. It sits between the AC pump and the oil filter housing. Link to post Share on other sites
sharky_70 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 not in the short term Kevso can the aux pump be binned like on the 12v? Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 It's up to you mate. I've not used the aux pump for ages and not had any problems - yet, LOL! Link to post Share on other sites
jesterwalker69 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Aye will do buddy' date=' may ahve to offer C2 a few beers for the privelage, but if i had it all on paper in one place isntead of spread out across a forum thread it would be alot better.[/quote']Aye spot on mateyI only found out about an R32 pedal being needed today!!! lolYer thats something i never knew about either. Mind i have been looking at paying £5k and giving the car to Storm to do the whole job. Reading through this though makes it seem RELATIVELY easy, relatively being the operative word lol. Link to post Share on other sites
kcw 1 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Do you lose your heaters if you dump the aux water pump like you do if you lose the standard header tank?Good thread this guys. Link to post Share on other sites
sharky_70 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 why do you lose the heater if you bin the stock header? Link to post Share on other sites
Jamesr_VR6 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Aye will do buddy' date=' may ahve to offer C2 a few beers for the privelage, but if i had it all on paper in one place isntead of spread out across a forum thread it would be alot better.[/quote']Aye spot on mateyI only found out about an R32 pedal being needed today!!! lolYer thats something i never knew about either. Mind i have been looking at paying £5k and giving the car to Storm to do the whole job. Reading through this though makes it seem RELATIVELY easy' date=' relatively being the operative word lol.[/quote']Ive emailed storm before but they never got back to me, neither did stealth Link to post Share on other sites
kcw 1 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 why do you lose the heater if you bin the stock header?No idea, but it did one mine and few other vr owners had same issue. Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Do you lose your heaters if you dump the aux water pump like you do if you lose the standard header tank?Nope, mine's still nice and toasty :-)How does the coolant maintain system pressure with no header tank? Is this some kind of 'cleaned engine bay' thing?I'm not sure if the aux pump is there to 'assist' the main pump, or just to circulate water after shut down to avoid localised hotspots round the back of the block, where the hot manifold starts 'wicking' heat into the head.Either way, I binned it, and have not yet suffered any consequences. I will one day put another pump back on, but a bigger more powerful one. Link to post Share on other sites
jesterwalker69 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ive emailed storm before but they never got back to me' date=' neither did stealth[/quote']Ah i rang them. I also rang Awesome who quoted me "well over 10k mate"!!! Then proceeded to try and sell me a 1.8T conversion - yer, coz thats what i asked for!! Link to post Share on other sites
sharky_70 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Do you lose your heaters if you dump the aux water pump like you do if you lose the standard header tank?How does the coolant maintain system pressure with no header tank? Is this some kind of 'cleaned engine bay' thing?something like that Kev i'll be either running an E36 or Fiat Brava rad with built in tank anyway Link to post Share on other sites
Jamesr_VR6 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ive emailed storm before but they never got back to me' date=' neither did stealth[/quote']Ah i rang them. I also rang Awesome who quoted me "well over 10k mate"!!! Then proceeded to try and sell me a 1.8T conversion - yer, coz thats what i asked for!!I reackon if you got everything you needed and say spent £2k colalting bits, then someone would install it for £2k???? it would only be a labour charge then?? Link to post Share on other sites
sharky_70 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 reckon you could have the custom loom and ecu, engine and other bits for £2k easy. no way fitting should be £2k Link to post Share on other sites
jesterwalker69 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 It was just the fact that if anything went wrong i could take the car back to them. Also they said that price would incl. setting up the car on the rollers and sort the gearing so i didn't just get a load of wheelspin in first and second due to the remap that was included. Didn't mind paying that for the sake of peace of mind and better overall performance! Link to post Share on other sites
sharky_70 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 fair enough Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Apparently new Polos have electric heaters instead of heater matrixes Sharky. Could be an option?£10K, LOL! Some companies quote daft prices like that just to get you off the phone and / or to see if you're serious or not. The actual price would be less than £10K I suspect, but they have to allow for 'unexpected' costs. Trouble is, you'll be waiting for weeks, maybe months as they'll just fit it in around other jobs and not devote their time to it."Sorting the gearing" I suspect means toning down the throttle response as it's very vicious with the standard mapping. They take some finesse to drive smoothly at low road speeds!My advice is to stick the lump in yourself because it really is not hard and you'll save yourself a big whack in labour costs.The cost of converting a big box of loom and ECU into a massively smaller loom and pre-programmed with a proven 270-280hp map, ready to fit and fire up is ~ £800 from Stealth. A remap from them is normally around £350 so imo that's pretty good value. They've done quite a few now and are dab hands at it. Just make sure you give them everything from the same car, not a mix and match of MK4 and MK5 wiring as that does complicate matters and adds cost.I think VAG-Doctor come in at a similar price but they prefer to have the whole car there I think. Not sure what C2 charge but either way, if ECUs and wiring isn't your bag, I highly recommend letting the experts do it. Link to post Share on other sites
sharky_70 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 exactly what i plan to do Kevsourced a low milage 4mo lump with complete loom (not just engine side) ECU, clocks etc looking for spare OBD2 loom now to send the lot offas set out the lump should go in fairly easy and if the wirings good and proper should be doable over a bank holiday Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Yep, sounds good!It may appear that I'm making myself out to be the expert with this, but I'm not, LOL!! Just passing on what I've learned along the way with helping a mate with his install :-)I've still got a 24V lump to install in my own car at some point. Not aided by my dealer mate telling me VAG have a brand new AQP 24V block (3.2 from an early TT) complete with pistons, crank etc, ready assembled for £450 inc VAT! Don't need that sort of temptation when I'm trying to budget!!! Link to post Share on other sites
jesterwalker69 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Yer Kev thats what i'm thinking. Drop the lump in myself with help from whoever i can get help from then send all the electrical gubbins, or as u say full car and gubbins, to ppl that know what they are doing. Last time i looked at a wiring diagram i thought i was looking at a Magic Eye puzzle!! Link to post Share on other sites
Jamesr_VR6 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 ^^ exactly as you say OllieI would rather the piece of mind of a warranty than doing it myself, but it is probably the best option.I dont think C2 is going to do a buying guide / install guide for me Maybe beer will tempt him?? Link to post Share on other sites
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