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Need to get some new suspension for the car, after bunging the charger on have noticed a bit more lean and roll. Have been looking at the couple of kits below - what do you guys reckon or any other suggestions ?

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=3764013

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=3754984

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Most would suggest saving a couple of hundred more and getting a decent coilover set up with height and ride adjustment. That will stiffen the car up a whole lot more and make it handle a lot better. If you are on a budget ((as I was) and still want to improve on a standard set up then I'd recommend the G-Max kit. I've had that on mine for nearly two years and I'm now running the same charger as you with no issues. I wouldn't say it's track perfect but the ride is a lot firmer than standard but not harsh and the height is ideal for normal road use. I have no problems with the numerous speed bumps in my area.. The kit is also slightly cheaper than the two above but imo does not lack quality. The money you save could go towards poly bushing your front wishbones which I did when I charged mine and it's improved the handling greatly. I ordered a set for a relatives MK3 GTi earlier today.

Here's the link for the 40VW25 Kit for a VR.

http://www.gmaxsuspension.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=1473_1589_1628_1662&products_id=1250745

If you're interested, give Russ a call direct on 01604670103 (cheaper than the 0844 number). He was quite helpful

Another trusted combination is Koni shocks with Eibach springs. Not sure of prices or suppliers though

Kevin

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Just seen these Raceland coilovers on Flea bay at the same price as the hot tuning ones on there. Probably much the same as they're both from Belgium

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RACELAND-ADJUST-COILOVER-SUSPENSION-KIT-VW-GOLF-MK3_W0QQitemZ220303215950QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item220303215950&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

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Most would suggest saving a couple of hundred more and getting a decent coilover set up with height and ride adjustment. That will stiffen the car up a whole lot more and make it handle a lot better. If you are on a budget ((as I was) and still want to improve on a standard set up then I'd recommend the G-Max kit. I've had that on mine for nearly two years and I'm now running the same charger as you with no issues. I wouldn't say it's track perfect but the ride is a lot firmer than standard but not harsh and the height is ideal for normal road use.

Kevin

Cheers for the advice Kevin, was not really worried about coilovers as am sure I wont ever bother changing the height once they are on so thats why i went for a good quality standard set up. Never seen the G-Max kit before but that looks pretty decent - but would it be better than the two I posted up ??

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Get some Ebay Hot Tuning coilovers for about £150' date='i've been running them on mine for a year now and they're loads better ride than the gmax kit i previously had on.

Good budget collies imo.

Chris

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I have heard some dodgy things about the ebay hot tuning collies to be honest mate I would steer clear of them - appreciate u have had a good experience with them but think I will avoid them.

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Most would suggest saving a couple of hundred more and getting a decent coilover set up with height and ride adjustment. That will stiffen the car up a whole lot more and make it handle a lot better. If you are on a budget ((as I was) and still want to improve on a standard set up then I'd recommend the G-Max kit. I've had that on mine for nearly two years and I'm now running the same charger as you with no issues. I wouldn't say it's track perfect but the ride is a lot firmer than standard but not harsh and the height is ideal for normal road use.

Kevin

Cheers for the advice Kevin' date=' was not really worried about coilovers as am sure I wont ever bother changing the height once they are on so thats why i went for a good quality standard set up. Never seen the G-Max kit before but that looks pretty decent - but would it be better than the two I posted up ??

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I can only go by what I've experienced mate. I didn't and still don't want to lose the comfort of the VR and that was my main concern when I was deciding which set up to go for. I don't know of anybody with either of those two set-ups so I wouldn't like to say they're better or worse. I was the same as you with regards to adjusting height and I used to be in the trade. I just wanted to fit them, do the tracking and camber and drive it without getting motion sickness everytime I drove on an uneven road. I took a bit of a gamble as I had only read up on here about G Max but it was the right choice for me given the amount I use the car and the road conditions in London. What suspension do you have on the car at the moment and what size wheels do you have? Wheel size also affects the way the car feels/handles a fair bit.

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Get some Ebay Hot Tuning coilovers for about £150' date='i've been running them on mine for a year now and they're loads better ride than the gmax kit i previously had on.

Good budget collies imo.

Chris

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I have heard some dodgy things about the ebay hot tuning collies to be honest mate I would steer clear of them - appreciate u have had a good experience with them but think I will avoid them.

Ok your call,but i've had both the G-Max kit and these cheaper coilovers and the collies win hands down + if you're anything like me i got bored of having a fixed height cos i kept wanting it lower :)

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I can only go by what I've experienced mate. I didn't and still don't want to lose the comfort of the VR and that was my main concern when I was deciding which set up to go for. I don't know of anybody with either of those two set-ups so I wouldn't like to say they're better or worse. I was the same as you with regards to adjusting height and I used to be in the trade. I just wanted to fit them' date=' do the tracking and camber and drive it without getting motion sickness everytime I drove on an uneven road. I took a bit of a gamble as I had only read up on here about G Max but it was the right choice for me given the amount I use the car and the road conditions in London. What suspension do you have on the car at the moment and what size wheels do you have? Wheel size also affects the way the car feels/handles a fair bit.

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I have Eibach suspension on the car at the moment and 16" rims, the suspension I got second hand from a member on here and have been very happy with until recently - so was wanting something that was quite firm as its similar to the current one, I only use the car on the road so dont need a track setup but the roads round here are pretty terrible - plenty of potholes !!!

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If you were a little closer I'd offer to take you out for a spin so see what you think. I've got 17's on mine but i did drive it with the 15's when i first lowered it. It sat a a nice height even then but the TT Comps had to go on. .If you haven't already, take a look at the thread on my car http://www.vr6oc.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?119591.post to see the sort of height with standard wheels on and then with the 17's.

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Ben I have Gmax on mine and while they are ok the front does seem to bounce a bit to much for my liking. They need to be stiffer imo and I also wish i had put collies on in the first place, thats what I would recommend but saying that the g max kit is ok for the £220 I paid

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That makes me a flash git then with Koni coilovers then......but they are a god send when swapping wheels over as i can adjust height slightly to get em looking right. Plus I can adjust hardness for road and track/strip

yes you are a flash git mate ;) would you recommend collies - as said i really only use the car on the road, am not bothered about track/strip use

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If you were a little closer I'd offer to take you out for a spin so see what you think. I've got 17's on mine but i did drive it with the 15's when i first lowered it. It sat a a nice height even then but the TT Comps had to go on. .If you haven't already' date=' take a look at the thread on my car to see the sort of height with standard wheels on and then with the 17's.

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cheers for the offer mate :) yeah I know mine needs to sit a little lower with the 16's on as the drop at the mo is only about 25mm so i think about 35-40mm would suit it perfectly - will check your thread out mate

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