Timing Chain replacement part numbers (1997 OBD 2)

[VR6Nat 9]

Right guys here is a list of the part numbers i believe im gonna need. Now these may be wrong and please feel free to tell me and i will change it, but i thought this may help others in the future to so worth starting a new thread.....

Timing Chain replacement items:

(Genuine VW parts)

Upper timing chain: 021 109 503D

Lower timing chain: 021 109 465B

Upper Guide: 021 109 513

Lower Guide: 021 109 469

Upper Tensioner: 021 109 509E

Lower Tensioner: 021 109 467

Piston Tensioner: 021 109 507B

Clutch Kit -228mm:

LUK: R-623119700 - GSF part number

Engine Oil:

Quantum synta silver semi synthetic 10w/40 - from VW

Coolant:

G12 ++

Gear Box Oil:

(im doing this because i want to not because you have to, just nice to do it while ur there....)

75w90 synthetic oil

[cabrioman 6]

ull need crank shaft oil seal ..... not sure on part number ... apart from that u seam to have it covered

[VR6Nat 9]

yeah i didnt put it on cuz gsf arent clear on the part number so im goin to call vw tomorrow and get hold of the genuine part number....

what about gearbox oil? any recommendations? and how much do i need? and how much coolant do i need? can we drain the system and start with all fresh stuff plz???

[patpong_pete 0]

Nat

find out if u have single or double chain ?

u can also uprate the Tensioner or bolt

to the later single chain rather than the older type which is double chain and heavier

LUK: R-623119700 - GSF part number

i think this clutch is ok

Tonys the man about a clutch he is on his third

so he will know what to buy hes now got black diamond clutch i think

but i will be going with original vag clutch

i think they r Sahcs or Luk

but vag r thicker than the ones they sell in Gsf or Euros parts

i am sure people on here can confirm this or correct me

i am just trying to help out with a little bit of info

as you and many others will have to come across this problem

some time of owning a vr6

ps Nat well done on your 1000th post that's only in 6 months

got to be a record pick your trophy up @ billing

[VR6Nat 9]

LUK is the standard clutch that is in them. Ive put down GSF part number as i dont know the LUK part number for it and its a place to start from.

This is the info with regards to the chains:

The OBD1 uses a double-row upper chain, a two-piece tensioner rail (consisting of a separate friction plate riveted to a metal backing) and a tensioner bolt that relies solely on oil pressure to apply force to the tensioner rail.

The later OBD2 engines use a single-row chain, a single-piece, dense polymer tensioner rail and a tensioner bolt that uses both spring tension and oil pressure to apply force to the tensioner rail.

Hope that helps

[VR6Nat 9]

f**kin hell i should be made a mod.....

Thats the problem with workin in an office with bosses that let me go online all day, and a slight osession with VRs!!!

But i want an award for my car *hint hint* and not me chattin!! lol

[cabrioman 6]

think its about 2ltrs of gearbox oil, yes we can re fresh everything lol

[VR6Nat 9]

lovely job, might aswell get everything new, ive just put an oil filter on tho last week so i aint replacing that again!! lol.

got 5 ltrs of engine oil too...

this is a MISSION!!!!! Grrrrrr :@

[cabrioman 6]

u wait till i get u helping me lol oh and bring ur camera lol

[Guest Nero1701]

Wow, your on a mission!!!!

Well done and great information there.

[VR6Nat 9]

ahhhh yeah im well up for it!! ill bring me little mechanics gloves with me and make sure im in me rough clothes.... this is gonna be fun!!!! :)

Its just the money part of it that aint fun, seeing the heart of my vr bein opened up and getting to see all the shiney bits inside is always a nice moment..... god im sad..... lol

[cabrioman 6]

while its all out i mite get the jet wash out for ya lol

[VR6Nat 9]

Wow' date=' your on a mission!!!!

Well done and great information there.

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hahaha, thanks mate, way i see it is if ur gonna do somethin u might aswell do it properly and get the other bits done while you're there....

and yep tony you know i will be cleaning as i go, it'll give me chance to clean all those bits i dont normally get to!!! lol.....

[cabrioman 6]

gearbox oil use 75w90 synthetic oil .. about 2.5 ltrs accordind to my book

[craggsy 91]

Nat I posted on other thread about PMing Richivr for your parts, he works at VW so should get a decent price for chains etc

[VR6Nat 9]

yeah, just saw that craig, thanks for that, i will send him a pm now, :)

[Just_Paul 0]

Thread revival....!

Mine need doin now. this thread has helped though! does anyone know the part number for the crank shaft oil seal? also anything in particular i should look out for when doin this? tbh, im not really looking forward to this! lol

[VR6Nat 9]

Hey mate... the only thing is those part numbers are specific to my engine code... yours may differ... where a part number has a D at the end that means thats like the 4th version... version a, b, c, d etc.... best bet is to get to a TPS with that list and your full engine code (can be found under the 2 fuel pipes on the left side of the block) they will be able to tell if yours vary from those numbers slightly or if they are the same,

I didnt get the part number for the oil seal, just ask for it when you're there and they can grab it for you.

This is a big job though... engine out. scary times, but worth doing in the long run.

[b-a 0]

i fort u had all ready done this ? Im goin to need ur help to make a list of parts to do mine if u could :) lol i dont think im goin to replace the chains just the top guide and tappest or the hydraulic lifters witch ether their called lol and the other little bits ?? Im goin down the cheap option .....

[Just_Paul 0]

cool, thanks Nat... yeah, thought it looked pretty hench on the guide.. oh well, ive got a couple of weeks off coming up soon, the joys of being a student! did u have much trouble with it?

[VR6Nat 9]

i did mine last summer... this is an old thread revival. lol. but yeah Brad ill help ya no worries.. just let me know when,

And Paul, it is a mega big job, but i did mine along side Tony, who knows everything needed to know so it went real smooth, put the engine back in, not a leak or a loose nut anywhere!! it was spot on but i wouldnt say its a task to take on unless you know what you're doing really...

[b-a 0]

oh lol that make sense lol yea as soon as i can get prices il more then likely go ahead with it . It will be nice not to have a tractor lol

[spadam 7]

Just been up to tonys and done mine to. Spot on job everything went well and smooth. Even removed aircon at same time. But take engine and gearbox out makes life so much easier.

[VR6Nat 9]

you removed your aircon?? are you mad?! id love aircon!!

[dman78 1]

you should've told me nat,i cut mine out last week,still got the rad and pump tho