Roots 4 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 i'm thinking about a spot of engine tuning, and want to stay N/a as the vr sound is worse than crack in terms of addiction lolhow are these for a start?6 branchhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-MK3-GOLF-GTI-VR6-91-4-BRANCH-EXHAUST-RACE-MANIFOLD_W0QQitemZ350193944744QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item51892f88a8&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14Starchiphttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-2-8-2-9-VR6-chip-Golf-Passat-Corrado-Jetta-Vento_W0QQitemZ250493191798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3a528ec676&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14would these be a good start? then a full stainless exhaust when the manifold was fitted. and then cams?any help appreciatedCheersChris Link to post Share on other sites
rodney 17 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Do a search there fella. there is a common tuning/upgrade thread. may be premium members only but check.Dont wast your time on the chip!pipes and inductiona dn suspension are the starters. Once you have done that then yup into cams and 6 branch Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Yep agree with RCF....go cams and 6 branch for proper mods. Filter and exhaust is a standard swap, suspension is a must.The chip is a waste, get cams then contact C2 for software to sort that out Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 G60 final drive is what you want Link to post Share on other sites
Roots 4 Posted September 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 ok cheers guys, i was almost convinced that that chip would do somethingi've got a panel filter at the moment, with the airbox cut in half basically lol, i'm saving for a BMC though and coilies are already on the car Link to post Share on other sites
Charged VR 0 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hello ChrisI have just removed a BMC from a customers car and is in nearly new condition, can ask him how much he wants for it? Im in Iver, near heathrow, so not far awayI can also do a good deal on Milltek cat back systems and Dubpower parts if interestedRegardsJohn@VRT Link to post Share on other sites
mat-ryder 2 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 If he doesnt want it i may take it off your hands at the right price Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 G60 final drive is what you want Abso friggin lutely!Forget the cams, chips, exhausts, filters..... with the exception a few parts, these all delivery very minimal gains.The best thing you can do to a normally aspirated VR6 imo is lower the gearing :-). It's way too tall as standard imo and just exacerbates the VR6's inherent lack of bottom end torque. Especially sat on the motorway in 5th at 70mph. Get some cheif up your rump and there's just nothing there when you floor it. A drop to 4th required, which gets tedious after a while, may aswell buy a VTEC!A close stack 6 speed, or just a shorter final drive with a Quaife will make the VR6 so much more drivable and fun! Link to post Share on other sites
Roots 4 Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 What gearbox code is the vr box? O2A? Where can I get a g60 final drive from. Sounds like a good bet to mr Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 got mine from Stealth Racing, the G60 final drive. its definatly a mod thats overlooked way too much, I think I'll be getting one for my new corrado Pete Link to post Share on other sites
rodney 17 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 what does it do to revs and motorway speed etc??? Link to post Share on other sites
Roots 4 Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 How much is a g60 final drive? Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 on the motorway, its an animal. no need to drop a gear, its boom, power there instantly. look on my nurburgring half lap video on youtube, it just pulls away from everything from practically a standing start and craigs schricked VR.I'm looking for a cheap G60 final drive now, if anyone knows of anywhere? I was so impressed with the last one. Link to post Share on other sites
Roots 4 Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Looks like an essential purchase tbh What are 2nd hand prices like? Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 they are 220+VAT from stealth. Link to post Share on other sites
goonersteve 0 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Does this have much of a detrimental effect on the fuel economy when just wanting to cruise at 'normal' motorway speeds? Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Yes a little, but ultimatly, most mods will affect enonomy Link to post Share on other sites
Roots 4 Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 this is very true, sounds like this should be my first purchase, then a miltek, then get them all fitted at the same time Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 fitting the final drive is a complete strip down job to fit them. Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Stealth normally sell the G60 final drive for £50 if they have any s/hand ones in, but if not, it's the VW price of £220 as Pete says. A guy called "Hot Golf" on ClubGTI also rebuilds gearboxes and may have a few spare.There's no trouble using a s/hand final drive, it's very strong and suffers very little wear, so fine to use. My s/hand G60 final drive has done 40K with double the torque VW intended and it's still going strong :-)Economy - I never worked it out fully when naturallty aspirated but it was only like a 2mpg drop at worst, but consider this, if my VRT averages 27.7mpg with the lower final driver, if you're normally asp' still then you should get more than that!As for revs, it reduces 5th by about 500rpm. So at 80 you're sitting at around 3400rpm ish instead of 3000, but 3500 onwards is where the bulk of the VR's torque lives, so as Pete says, you do indeed pull away from people quite convincingly :-)A brilliant mod if you're planning on fitting a quaife or new clutch etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Roots 4 Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 when you say complete strip down, do you mean, gearbox out and taken apart completely? or engine taken apartto be honest i was thinking about a new clutch soon, as it's slipping sometimes, so would make sense to fit a new clutch and maybe a lightened flywheel to it whilst the gearbox is offi know on a 16v engines there is a benefit to a lightened flywheel, but is there a benefit to a VR with a lightened fly?N/A power is what i'm after, i've done boost, until i can charge a VR (££££), then maxxing the n/a power is what i'm after Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Gearbox has to be removed and stripped completely, which is why it's best to roll it all in as one Quaife / Final Drive / Clutch job!Light flywheel, yes, makes a nice difference but depending on what weight you go for and the brand of clutch, you might get a little judder and some vibration in the car. The OE flywheel is heavy for a reason ;-) With the shorter final drive and a light flywheel, it feels so much better, more nimble and more accelerative. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 how much was your fly wheel kev? Link to post Share on other sites
Roots 4 Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 well the oem clutch would be best suited to an oem flywheel i presume?? whats the lightest flywheel around?also, what code are early VR boxes? 02A? Link to post Share on other sites
jesterwalker69 0 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 How much does the G60 knock off the top end speed? Link to post Share on other sites
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