MikeJVV 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Today basically me and a mate (aaronmk2) took the chains and head of my VR engine to fit a spacer headgasket. And then to refit new chains, guides tensioners.Problem i have is, i didnt set the head to TDC1 and lock it before i took it off. So now i have an engine that is completly untimed, including the head. And im a bit stuck on how to get the head back to TDC1 to put it back on the engine and time, also the pistons are not in there relevant position.I have a VR6 pocket manual which is about as good as a hernia.Any help anyone? :/ Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJVV 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Basically i need to know how to set the cams to TDC1 when they are not attached to the chains an engine. As the head is off the car and the cams+valves are not at tdc1.So then i can set the lower chain and imtermidiate sprocket to tdc1 and put the head on and time it up. Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 If you look at the end of the cams(not the sprocket end) there are cut outs in the end. You need to line these up level with the top surface of the cylinder head.Have a look at this picture found with a google image search:In the picture they have used 2 peices of 3mm thick alloy plate to align the cams. Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJVV 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Cheers. That pic was off a thread on vortex.I understand that if i spin the right hand cam so that the valves on cylinder 1 are up so they dont hit the piston on tdc.But where should the vales be on cam 2?Problem is i can just stick the tools in as above, as the head is not on the car, so i need to know which way around the cams should be before i stick the tools in?Make sense? Sorry for poor explanation. Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 The cams will only go in one way. That cut is also ofset slightly Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJVV 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 ok. So i can only fit the tool in with the cams rotated one way around? As i dont want to put the head in with the 50/50 chance that the cams are 180degrees out.Do you know if euros/dealer sell the cam locking tool? As would like to pick one up tomo if possible.Cheers for your help Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Yep will only go in cams with bigger portion at bottom Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJVV 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 You are lifesafer!Cheers dude. Link to post Share on other sites
cabrioman 6 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 need to make sure the crank and idler are timmed up correctly aswell mate Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJVV 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Yeah, thats not too much of a problem, i understand that totally, and how to time the engine. Its just that nowhere talks about timing an engine if you havnt set the head to tdc1 before removing it, and i didnt realise the cam tool only fits one way.Im currnelty making a home made cam locking tool from bits and bobs, ha! Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 We used a c spanner from Nats suspension when doing mine.....works a treat Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJVV 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 That could work!At the moment im making something out of my national insurance card a few other random cards in my wallet. But a C spanner could work, mine is fairly thick but wil give it a shot!Need to buy premium membership on here soooo bad. Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Yep deffo sign up.....premium membership gets a how to guide for most stuff Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJVV 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Yeah, i think i will sort it out by the end of the week.When we were stripping the engine down aaron just wacked out his premium on his phone to find a guide about something we were taking apart.This forum is amazing, so much more informative that others, and actually has members that have done things, rather than just making it up.... Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Thats what stands us out, we like building our own cars, so the cheque book thing is a rare thing here.....well except Jake that is Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJVV 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Prefer to get dirty and have a bit of fun, cant wait to get the VR turbo running! haha.Although i did chequebook my paint work... lol115bhp 8v to 280bhp+ Ha....good times. Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Body work usually is paid for lol Link to post Share on other sites
cabrioman 6 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 aslong as u got two bit of flat metal ull be all good mate ... saying that im over ur way looking a few cars sunday could pop over with my timing tool if u want and cast an eye over it for ya Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJVV 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Could do dude, im going to give it a go tomo and see what i can use around the garage. But if not that would be an awesome help! Link to post Share on other sites
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