kaptainkernow 0 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I started my journey from Cardiff to Croydon, hit slow moving traffic by Newport, then steam!! Lots of it. Pulling off the motorway asap, and stopped.A little look under the bonnet and could see a split in the top hose (from the rad, to the thermostate housein).I've had a little man fit a new hose, and thermostat, but he now says it won't stat! Has it got a sensor that will it stop it starting if that is no water in the system? The mechanic said he tryed to start it with out water in. I'm hoping I didn't cook the engine!A Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 It shouldnt hurt it for a few minutes with no water.......but not any great length of time!!!!!I cant understand why it wont start just coz of a split hose. Link to post Share on other sites
Miss-Vw 2 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Is it trying to turn over or is it completely dead?? Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Nat 9 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 stupid question but he has put water back in it now yeah? And as above, what happens when you try to start it? Link to post Share on other sites
kaptainkernow 0 Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 The engine is turning over but no sign of firing. There was no water in when it was trired. Just to add- when it burst the pipe the temp gauge was reading normal. Any ideas why it might of popped the hose? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
shail 0 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I've had a couple of hoses go, purley down to the age of the pipes.When you had the burst pipe where did all the water go? You could have shorted something out - the coilpack is near the pipe you mentions, and they are known to have cracked cases letting in water. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Nat 9 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yeah i think Shail is right, if its trying to fire up but its not sparking, the main things to check are your coilpack hasnt got cracks that water has got into, also if any water got in where your plug and leads are... if its none of those things let us know... Link to post Share on other sites
kaptainkernow 0 Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thanks people. I'm still in bloomin' Croydon working, so can't play with it my self. My little mechanic man has firred the new hose and thermosat. He said on the phone that it wouldn't start. also that the yellow light came on on the dash?? It's turning over but not firing at all. The hose did split right under the coilpack (if thats what the HT leads are plugged into), and was spirted everywhere. Im hoping that it's just the water stopping it start. If the coilpack is cracked should I buy a new one? It frustrating not being able to try and start it myself, but I'll be back by it's sick bed on monday. I'll let you know how I get on.Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
shail 0 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 You can try and repair your coilpack - there are quite a few how-to guides on the net. Basically you can take it off, dry it, and cover it with sealant. You can buy a new one but they are quite expensive. There are some on ebay for about £90. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-PASSAT-2-8-VR6-V6-COIL-PACK-BRAND-NEW-YEARS-1992-ON_W0QQitemZ280324812860QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4144a9303c Link to post Share on other sites
kaptainkernow 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Hi, just a little up date.I have had a little play with it today, beween the showers!I started off with checking the compression, most of the cylinders are getting 10 bar, one was 12 and no.2 cylinder was about 8. So I think that the head gasket is OK. All the plugs look normal and were wet with fuel (plugs are just a few months old). I then removed the coilpack (coiolpacks are new to me!! I have had a 1971 MG for ten years.) The coilpack has a few little cracks in the plastic. I also took the back off, there is a bit of oil leaking out. So I have ordered a new one. There wasn't loads of old but it's the only thing I can think of. Is there any way of getting VAG-COM on to my PC without paying 200 quid? Link to post Share on other sites
kaptainkernow 0 Posted November 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Another update dudes.IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!Fitted the new coilpack, and hey presto...started first time. Wasn't firing on all cylinders at first but that was just a plug lead not on properly. There is now a tricking type noise coming from the other end of the engine! Also when the engine was warm, I gave the water hoses a sqeeeze and they feel pretty hard. I have a little theory that the water is knackered, and the system is pressurising as it gets hot. I have ordered a new one, but gether its a bit of hastle to get at it. Any other ideas?? Link to post Share on other sites
J5KE F 0 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Hi fella, vag com's are on the bay with shareware home use software for as little as £15! You can Always download the software from ross-tech if u can only get the cable. Best run in xp, but if using vista the 'run as administrator' option is supposed to work although it didn't for me good luck!! Link to post Share on other sites
kaptainkernow 0 Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Me again!Well I've had an afternoon of playing with the Golf. It turns out the man didn't fit the thermostat, as he didn't know where it went. So with the new water pump in hand, and after reading a how-to, I went to work. The fitting of the pump was pretty easy really. So I went about the job of the thermostat. I didn't really know where it is was, so I went for taking the whole housing off. This is where I hit a problem. The allen bolts are a bastard to get to, so I took off the coilpack to give me a better view of things. When I came to take out the tird bolt the little bugger decided to round off!! A total nightmare. So I thought and I would try and take off the bit that I thought the termos was behind. It didn't work! I couldn't get a the last allen bolt. I'm just hoping that it wasn't the reason it burst its hose in the first place.The engine is running fine. When it is warm the hoses feel presurised, but I'm not sure if its too much, and therefore going to pop a pipe again??I'm thinking that the themperature gauge didn't read hot when the hose burst, so maybe thermostat is ok?? Link to post Share on other sites
shail 0 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 THermostat housing is a total pig. I tried once, gave up, paid a garage to do it! Link to post Share on other sites
kaptainkernow 0 Posted November 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Howdy y'all, today I decided to let the car tick-over until it got nice and hot! As I can't replace the thermostat (without mucho sweat to the balls), I thought I'll just let it sit there and if it pops another hose then I'll know the thermso isn't wotking! I'm not sure if this is very sensible, running out of ideas.It did get warm, temp gauge reads normal and stays there. Didn't pop anything. But was getting steamy-ness from the exhaust and there was gunk under the oil filler cap. I am thinking the gasket has probably gone. But it didn't show up anything when I tested the compressions. I spoke to my Dad and he said, 'did you do the test with the engine hot?'I hadn't, I did it cold. So today I did the compression test again. Most are about 10bar, one was 8 and one 7. Is this too low?How hard is the job of the head gasket?I think I'm going to try again to remove the thermostat. Link to post Share on other sites
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