vr6_super 0 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 hey all, seeing as i got another job now i am keeping the vr6 and doing her up. Tho after reading countless posts I am confused more than ever. I dont have the money (in the near future anyway) to charge it, either super or turbo. So the areas I am looking for improvement is the induction kit, chip remap?, exhaust system, cams?, manifold (shrick?).With the induction kit the power gains arent that much different are they from K&N to BCA tho the price diff is quite a bit. Will a chip remap or new chip really make that much diff to a standard lump? Looking at the milltek but mot needed in March so would either get after mot and get a decat or get it soon and get normal. Ive heard the decat wont pass an mot. All views welcome and mega happy not to be seeling the beast, well beast to be, its more of a tiger cub at the mo lol Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Nat 9 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 what year is your vr? Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 1996, not sure if its obd1 or 2, i know theres a lotta chat re that Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 without a turbo or a charger the most you can expect from a n/a VR is around 220bhp - and by the time you have bought cams, a schrick, 6 branch, new exhaust etc then you have almost spent the same as you would on a stage 1 charger setup !! things like a de-cat, 6-branch exhaust will only give you a very small gain in power and as Key proved recently the standard air filter gives better gains than any aftermarket products mate here http://www.vr6oc.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?326899.0 Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Nat 9 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Yours will be an OBD2, which means chipping it just isnt worth it for the gain you get and you will fail with a decat unless you have a friendly mot tester As ben says, by the time you buy all the bits to squeeze an extra 20 or 30 bhp you would have spent a fair whack of the turbo/charger money for not a massive difference.... i reckon you should just save hard and in the meantime drive it like you stole it cuz they can still be fun as stock... :) Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 shame i dont have the standard filter anymore, prev owner put a cone filter on. i'm not looking at doing all those things also. i know that i wont get much more out of her. its just that everywhere i look its telling me its mininum £2500-£3000 to get charged. Think its better just to get the exhaust coz its the standard one and its done 165k, unlike the engine Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 spose, i dont drive it that often coz the fuels a bugger, its actually worse than the pulsar i had lol, but it sounds so goooooood when the foots planted Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 plenty of original filter's about mate well then if you go for cams, exhaust, 6 branch and maybe a de-cat then you will need a re-map so your probably looking at £1.5K for all that lot, and if you can find a kit come up second hand then you will probably be paying about the same spose' date=' i dont drive it that often coz the fuels a bugger, its actually worse than the pulsar i had lol, but it sounds so goooooood when the foots planted[/quote']how bad is bad mate ?? what sort of figures are you getting ? Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 tbh i need to fill up the petrol can and just run her into the ground and see what figures i'm getting. i'm thinking the sensor might be buggered coz i can put in say 20 when the needle is on the qtr and it will go to just over the half, but then 40 miles lata it will go back to the qtr, then i can stay there for around 90 miles, tbh the fuels prob ok, i'm just too scared to drive her till the light comes on in case that sensor is buggered too lol Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Nat 9 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Have you checked your mfa to see what mpg you're getting?? Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 yeah its around 28 on mway, think around 21 normal driving but dont check it that often when normal driving Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 they dont have a low petrol warning light mate !yeah its around 28 on mway' date=' think around 21 normal driving but dont check it that often when normal driving[/quote']mmm well that does sound a touch low - have you given it a service ? cleaned maf throttle body checked sensor's that type of thing ? Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 well how friggn stupid is that lol, not yet but will be getting checked over prior to mot so i can note it down it check cheers Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 well things like a dirty MAF and throttle will rob you of power and fuel economy but are not things they will check on an MOT mate Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 i meant i will be getting the car checked prior to mot and that i will take a note of the maf throttle body and sensors to check then Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 ah cool :) well good luck and the other thing to do is stick it on vag-com just to check that everything is ok Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 kl Link to post Share on other sites
djmorgz 0 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 personaly if i didnt have the money to charge it yet i would sort the handling out good coilovers not cheap ones arb's, strut braces and uprated engine and gearbox mounts also poly bush all the wishbones etc decent rubber then she will go some on the twisties lol Link to post Share on other sites
ingham 5 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 the best mod for the money i have done on car is fitt diesel under tray , saves fuel and is faster top end (tested in germany) Link to post Share on other sites
spadam 7 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 sounds intresting what does this do exactly im assuming reduces drag and improves aerodynamics Link to post Share on other sites
ingham 5 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 http://www.vr6oc.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?18122.0it reduces drag and improves aerodynamics , you can get panel that fits between petrol tank and rear bumper also Link to post Share on other sites
GVK 1 Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 You may get 220hp on optimistic rollers with all those NA mods.... not on a dyno dynamics [wink]0BD2 2.8268 Dougherty cams205hp....Who said chipping an OBD II isn't worth it?I'm willing to argue, as I suspect C2 UK would be too.... Link to post Share on other sites
GVK 1 Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Actually, the VERY first thing I'd do to a VR is forget about the engine and fit a 3.68 FDTHE best mod you can do to a VR6 without question. Link to post Share on other sites
aminder 4 Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Actually' date=' the VERY first thing I'd do to a VR is forget about the engine and fit a 3.68 FDTHE best mod you can do to a VR6 without question.[/quote']I'll second that mate! Makes the world of difference!! Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted January 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 proba stupid question but what is a 3.68 FD? Link to post Share on other sites
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