TURBO SHOPPING LIST

[yakuza racer 16]

i want to go turbo eventually, i have a stock vr with decat...

so what do i need ( please add)

Turbo T61 ball bearing turbo or GT35

turbo manifold

injectors 550cc

Intercooler ( what size?? etc...)

full engine management v6 Go tech PRO

Dump valve ( size, etc...??)

Boost controller

268 cams

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please help an aspiring vr driver reach his dream of one day boosting ;-)

[Nex 17]

I might be wrong but aren’t the 263 cams better for FI?

[golfrabbit33 0]

turbo is fine, with a 1.06 housing

down pipe

pay the extra $ and get the intercooler pipework made in stainless.

injectors 440cc unless you want more than 440bhp in which case you will need to fully re build and upgrade internals.

engine management not needed, standard ecu with c2 motorsports chip.

263 cams if you have to.

apexi avcr electronic boost controller.

spacer plate from c2

uprated fuel pump - i use bosch 044

3" exhaust system 2.5" will do if not

an uprated gearbox with peloquin or quaiffe

upgraded brakes

a good relationship with your tyre dealer lol

upper and lower stiffening of chassis

do a compression check on all cylinders BEFORE you even start to see if all ok before spending loads.

standard pistons and rods will both see 440hp with no problems,

over 500ft of torque and uprated rods are needed. vw pistons are very strong as a rule.

[FishWick 21]

268s will work OK...at the expense of a bit of bottom end torque.

[matty.vrt 120]

as garry said c2 motorsports is the quickest and easyest way of getting your vrt up and running. its also the cheapest and drivability is like stock till the turbo kicks in.

[yakuza racer 16]

fella's im not in the UK.... im at the tip of africa...

we have many people here that can turbo a vr, but i would have to take out another bond on my house to do it, so im going to buy all the parts needed first then go from there

many thanks for the help guys

[yakuza racer 16]

turbo is fine' date=' with a 1.06 housing

down pipe

pay the extra $ and get the intercooler pipework made in stainless.

injectors 440cc unless you want more than 440bhp in which case you will need to fully re build and upgrade internals.

engine management not needed, standard ecu with c2 motorsports chip.

263 cams if you have to.

apexi avcr electronic boost controller.

spacer plate from c2

uprated fuel pump - i use bosch 044

3" exhaust system 2.5" will do if not

an uprated gearbox with peloquin or quaiffe

upgraded brakes

a good relationship with your tyre dealer lol

upper and lower stiffening of chassis

do a compression check on all cylinders BEFORE you even start to see if all ok before spending loads.

standard pistons and rods will both see 440hp with no problems,

over 500ft of torque and uprated rods are needed. vw pistons are very strong as a rule.

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much appreciated!!

[FishWick 21]

As you are on OBD1, I would recommend you get Vince at Stealth to send you over a chip. His Motronic turbo maps are the best I've seen to date.

You won't be wanting to splash out on a standalone as you've said you're on a budget, but they are great. Ignore the BS stories you hear about poor drivablilty, it's nonsense.

[yakuza racer 16]

As you are on OBD1' date=' I would recommend you get Vince at Stealth to send you over a chip. His Motronic turbo maps are the best I've seen to date.

You won't be wanting to splash out on a standalone as you've said you're on a budget, but they are great. Ignore the BS stories you hear about poor drivablilty, it's nonsense.

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how easy is it to install?? just plug and play?

[LiamD 0]

reading the above lists, is it crucial to use a short runner intake manifold then?

I'm umming and ahhing over supercharger vs turbo. The aim is around 340-370bhp which i think will be cheaper to achieve with a turbo set up.

[FishWick 21]

Nope.

It's not about achieving a certain hp figure. A 200hp Turbo diesel drives completely differently to a 200hp NA motor, and it's the same with VRT versus VRS/C. You first need to decide what power delivery you want.

The VRT has bags more torque everywhere and comes in earlier, AND, makes more power from the same boost and is easy to get more out of. Centrifugal S/Cs don't achieve peak boost until the red line, which for me as a daily driver, was useless, so I binned it and got a turbo and it's night / day faster.

[matty.vrt 120]

I had a vortech v9 on my old vr6 and it felt like it was still n/a as far as power delivery was concerned not my cup of tea mid range torque is where its at.

[FishWick 21]

Had the Vortech V9 kit on mine. Even with stage 3 (12psi), it was only making around 3 psi at 4000rpm and around 200lb torque. Now it makes double the torque at the same rpm from 13psi....and holds it to 7000rpm. Side by side and like for like boost wise, a VRT would annihilate a VR6 S/C if you mashed the gas pedal down at 3500rpm in 5th.

[jims13 6]

he speaks the truth, ive done a back to back test s/c v t/c both with same psi, and mine won, it wasnt even in the same league.. its all about trq . a good turbo setup will be cheaper long run than a equivalent supercharged setup, and will drive better.

even when vr sick had his 3.2 rotrex lump, side by side on a private road, we dropped a cog at the same time , and i pulled away.. bearing in mind he had a proven 100 + bhp more.. i have driven a few s/charged cars of different type's and tbh i dontlike the delivery of the vortechs, if i had to have one it'd be a z, as the bolt on self cointained option works well, and drives better than the equivelant vortech unit.

[FishWick 21]

Yeah I've heard the Zs are better. Eatons are good too as the boost comes in lower down. The Rotrex is also better than the Vortechs imo :-)

[jims13 6]

yeah ive had a eaton on a vr6, but we didnt intercool it.. that was the only problem, it was a surprisingly straight forward thing to to . jake's old rotrex one went like a turbo car, and as youve said miles better than a vortech . but we are comparing different types of charger

its each to there own , and budget often plays a part. any 50-100 bhp improvement over the stock 174 - ish .. is gonna be a major plus.

[yakuza racer 16]

so turbo bits it is, i got a hold of a T61 ball bearing turbo for about £300, now all to get is the rest of the goodies.....

also wanted to ask, do i HAVE to change the pistons?

[FishWick 21]

Nice turbo :-)

No you don't have to change the pistons for 400hp or under. Over 400hp, then I would personally.

[matty.vrt 120]

spacer gasket will get you on your way save the pistons for later if you dont want a massive build cost.

[UnitedMotorsport 55]

spacer gasket will get you on your way save the pistons for later if you dont want a massive build cost.

Totally agree!

[yakuza racer 16]

will my gearbox hold up the power, heard under the load it will break.....

[FishWick 21]

What size hot side does your T60-1 have?

It's boost / torque that comes in too early which breaks gearboxes.

[matty.vrt 120]

I found at 14psi the gearbox held up realy well but any more and your on borrowed time.

[GVK 1]

fella's im not in the UK.... im at the tip of africa...

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