elsvr6 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 i have a mk3 golf with an r32 conversion, this car is quick but i want more power. can anyone tell me which is better, supercharger or turbo for my engine. mate of mine was telling me about a twin turbo Link to post Share on other sites
rodney 17 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 One is not better than the other... Horses for corses... What are you trying to do and what is your budget..You can plug and play a charger system where as you may need to do more work and BHP dependant you will need a higher bank balance..But you can achieve similar numbers via both systems. it is all about drivability and what you are doing it for... balls out drag?/track days?street ride?Do a search on here and you will find threads about them how to install them and who does what as a manufacturer etc.. Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Twin turbo uses to smaller turbos. Hpa use K04 turbos on there twin turbo setups. Whereas single turbo setups can use a bigger turbo, I have a gt35 in mine Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Single turbo conversion imo. Superchargers work well too as the R32 has a lot more grunt below 4000rpm than the 12V. Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Rotrex have pulled good figures on the R32 Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 I'll bet!! Quite a handy motor for boost the R32 as it's intake changeover point coincides with the boost starting, so you get the best of both worlds :-)Just a shame there isn't a metal version of that plastic intake though....which still has the variable gubbins in it. Link to post Share on other sites
golfrabbit33 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 at the end of the day,its all about £££. 2.5k gets a s/h charger set up. 4k+ for turbo. the chap above has a killer charger kit for sale Link to post Share on other sites
legvw 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 I agree with everyone above, its all done to personal preference. Do you want progressive power with max power at the red line? Do you want a kick in the back at 3500rpm? Do you want that kick, but with twice the work involved? It all down to you. See if you can befriend someone that has a charged vr, and go out in it to make your mind up, s/charger or tub. Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 big single turbos tend to make more power or have the potential to make more power .. twin turbos have less lag but would be pointless on a FWD car. 2 small turbos spin up more quickly than a big single and can flow more that a mid single turbo. but its a lot more work and money.id love 4 wheel drive twin turbo 400bhpfwd your probably better off with a single big turbofor a high power drag car you want one massive turbothe advantage of a supercharger is easy of install. could end up cheaper possibly more suited to a track car due to smoother power delivery. but a turbo car is always going to be faster and feel faster with the kick in the back Link to post Share on other sites
bungy 2 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 How about a turbo and charger, no ones mentioned that bad boy.... Link to post Share on other sites
b road blaster 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 lanca done that yrs ago bungy think it was on the 036 rally car Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 One is not better than the other... Horses for corses... What are you trying to do and what is your budget..x 2 my thoughts exactly - all comes down to personal preference - and pathetic though it may be the noise was one factor in my decision and have had so many peeps with turbos chargers etc say how nice my car sounds I always know I made the right decision plus 280 bhp at 5 psi speaks for itself ! Link to post Share on other sites
b road blaster 0 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 sorry 037 http://www.lanciarally037.com/home.htm Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 One is not better than the other... Horses for corses... What are you trying to do and what is your budget..x 2 my thoughts exactly - all comes down to personal preference - and pathetic though it may be the noise was one factor in my decision and have had so many peeps with turbos chargers etc say how nice my car sounds I always know I made the right decision plus 280 bhp at 5 psi speaks for itself ! puts me off turboing my car. still love the sound but i wouldn't want to loose the VR burble.. which i think you keep with a charger? Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Mine sounds fantastic.......especially when the wastegate chattersI miss that sound Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 One is not better than the other... Horses for corses... What are you trying to do and what is your budget..x 2 my thoughts exactly - all comes down to personal preference - and pathetic though it may be the noise was one factor in my decision and have had so many peeps with turbos chargers etc say how nice my car sounds I always know I made the right decision plus 280 bhp at 5 psi speaks for itself ! puts me off turboing my car. still love the sound but i wouldn't want to loose the VR burble.. which i think you keep with a charger? yeah you sure do mate love the turbo sound too just was after something a bit more "aggressive" if you want and more head turning as I am a bit of a show off so wanted a charger whine to go with the deep sound of a VR and thats what I got turn your speakers up :) Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 they all sound so mint tbf.. Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Mine sounds fantastic.......especially when the wastegate chattersHe he, that is the most common misunderstanding about turbos :-) Wastegates don't make a noise. Well, correctly installed ones of a decent brand don't at least. Compressed air bouncing backwards off the throttle plate and over the compressor blades is what makes the noise :-)People pay money to deliberately shorten their turbo life to get that noise :-) Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I only hear it faintly at top end of revs when changing gears Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Compressor surge Craig, You want to get rid of that! As Kev says, it'll shorten the life of your turbo. Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 How could that be sorted then? Link to post Share on other sites
rodney 17 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 fit a supercharger... LOL Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 How could that be sorted then?What dump valve you got on there? Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Would have to check that one Matt. Receipt just says "supersize diverter valve", so will have to have a look in the morning Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 What size turbo is it? Personally, I feel nothing less than a TIAL 50mm or Forge's biggest recirc valve will do for GT30 upwards :-)I ran the usual Forge 007P for a while and it was surge central.... it's way too small. Link to post Share on other sites
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