amit 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Back in october 2004, i advertised some alloys with tyres on ebay for £650. They were purchased by a ebayer, who decided to pay £150 cash upon delivery and £500 with credit card through paypal- due to his credit limit only being £500. I thought fair enough. Once the payment had cleared through paypal and into my account, he came over and paid the remaining £150 and collected the goods. About 6 weeks ago i recieved an email from paypal, informing me, my paypal account had a unauthorised transaction and the payer was disputing the transaction??? Some term on paypal called "chargeback" which means my paypal account will remain in -£500 balance till the matter is resolved. I was advised to reply asap in my good interest. And so i did, stating the whole process as to what went on. Today i recieved an email from paypal saying:"After careful consideration of the evidence provided by you and the buyer in the case referenced above, we have determined that you are liable forthe chargeback amount"Obviously the guy has managed to wriggle his way out of it, and totally denied any involvement in the transaction. I even emailed paypal telling them why has it taken the payer sooo long to report this. The guy never left me feedback and probably never ever traded on ebay ever again. It sucks, im left with a outstanding balance of £500 and other guy got what he wanted for £150. Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 that sucks... so does paypal which is why I don't accept it Link to post Share on other sites
pete8tch 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 bloody hell , thats scary , so if you are paid with what you think is secure it isnt in reality.and they can take back money they paid you when they want.that sucks. Link to post Share on other sites
amit 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 i mean...... this is going back to october 2004, the money came into my account, and i spent it here and there... bought a few bit'n'bobs....the normal stuff you'd expect. Im left with a paypal account of -£500. I mean WTF....you wouldnt expect this 4 months later would you?cash in hand from now on.......cash in hand baby...... Link to post Share on other sites
amit 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 oh and not to mention..........its actually -£507.00. The £7.00 charge paypal incurred from the credit card company for investigations! I got to bloody pay that aswell. Link to post Share on other sites
mightyvr6 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Paypal is sh*te. If someone buys something off you (say an ebay item), you send it to them but then they say they haven't received the item, and place a dispute they can get the the money back from paypal. They can dispute it up to 45 days after the transaction too. There is also the issue of using fraudulent credit cards to pay for goods.Paypal doesn't protect the seller. If you do accept paypal, make sure you send stuff recorded delivery as a tracking number is proof of postage and if things go wrong there will be some comeback. On valueable items only accept bank transfers, cheques (cleared of course) and cash. Link to post Share on other sites
pete8tch 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 cheques arnt secure either, they can be stolen , the bank clears them then tells you it wants the money back. Link to post Share on other sites
Slim 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 If you still have details of the auction, you should be able to find his address. If someone pulled that on me, they'd be getting a visit and a damn good kicking. Link to post Share on other sites
dub_weiser 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Dam thats fcuked up! Never have used paypal and def won't be in future either. Sorry to hear that Link to post Share on other sites
VRVIRGIN 0 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Man thats gutting m8, very sorry to hear it. Haven't you kept any of the correspondance details at all? Maybe on your mobile phone bill or something? Just a thought, cos i'd like to see that c**t go down, i really would. Link to post Share on other sites
badboyV6 4 Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Thats really bad news mate- you scared me a bit as im selling my exhaust on ebay and somenes offered me what i want fo it and wants to pay through paypal! fook, what do i do? He lives in Edinburgh! I live in Gloucestershire..... Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 oh dear mate, thats terrible, surley ebay will have some record of the sale to back up your claim? Link to post Share on other sites
Toby 0 Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 not sure I'd chance it by the sounds of things...last thing you want to do is potentially sell your exhaust for nothing! Link to post Share on other sites
pete8tch 0 Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 warren u just need proof of delivery mate if he signs for it there can be no dispute. just make sure you record the delivery Link to post Share on other sites
pete8tch 0 Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 its not proof of sale its some clever git worked the system and realised that there was no way to prove he had it Link to post Share on other sites
nickg123 0 Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Shit i can't believe that!!!Quite scary........ i use(d) paypal a lot so think i shall be rethinking how i accept payments from now on :-( Link to post Share on other sites
badboyV6 4 Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 OK thanks pete- recorded delivery it is then. :-) Link to post Share on other sites
malcolm 0 Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 pay the creep a visit Link to post Share on other sites
vr6freak 3 Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 wow- i was thinking of setting up a paypal account. I think i will forget it. Feeling for you to only get £150 for your alloy's but having to owe paypal a monkey isn't funny. Link to post Share on other sites
Seademon 0 Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 I wont use paypal to accept payment anymore after I sold a mobile on ebay - it all went through fine then the russian guy cancelled the transaction but luckily I hadnt sent the phone but the day after he withdrew he was asking where the phone was! From now on I only accpet cheques and Po's - I wait for the cheque to clear aswell before anything gets sent - so many people out there just waiting to pull one over on you. Link to post Share on other sites
DundeeDub 0 Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 edinburgh is only just down the road from me, whats his name might know him Link to post Share on other sites
Andyboy 0 Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 I'd get him to send you a postal order, or a bankers draft, takes longer but your guarenteed (spelt wrong) to get the money!!! Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Toby 0 Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Paypal should be able to track the IP address for the transaction and locate the buyer. But that would require Paypal to actually do something about it, rather than sit on their arses charging people left right centre. Link to post Share on other sites
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