vr6_super 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Well following on from my last thread, I think the pump is f**kdSods law, first saturday off in weeks and its scheduled to go in to get looked at and I get convinced to work for triple time. Big mistake.Pulled out from chinese and as soon as I went to turn the wheel I heard a bang from the front end. Was plenty away from the kerb so that wasnt it and the steering is nigh on impossible to turn.Whenever I try to turn the wheel it doesnt move, or maybe just a little, but I hear a whiney noise.Now, has the pump given up the ghost or could it possibly be lack of fluid? Personally I hope its the latter but dont reckon it is.Help plzzzzzzz Link to post Share on other sites
filtee 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Maybe a silly question but has the belt not snapped or pump moved causing it to go slack? Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Cant really check, had to abandon car in the town Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyman 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 All is not lost !!! DON'T panic just yet...The conecting pipe from the resevoir to the steering pump is located way down low lower left corner of the front bumper... what happens is the "O" ring round the metal "L" pipe corrodes which means when you hit a bump or lumpor simply from the pressure in the system it can shoot off ...This metal "L" pipe goes into the bottom of the power steering pipe.. it, it;s self is jubelie clipped to a rubber piece of hose that then goes into the long rail this is located under the front Radiator...My suggestion wgich i have done many a time is take of the "L" pipe clean it up get some rubber "O" ring wahsers from B&Qpush fit it back together and jubilee clip it up as before then take a couple thick cable ties and move the black hose it's conected to up and out of reach .. this does two things... It stops the hose or the pipe hangiing lower than the bumper so stops it catching on objects & stope the "L" Pipe rotating down to twist it's way out the bottom of the power steering block...before i did this i was forever catching it on something or putitngmy hand under the front bumper checking to see if i had PSF on my hands ! ... lol BTW when you hear a whining noise it's beacuse you have no fluid in the system so don't drive or you will knacker it !!!!! Hope this helps .... Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 It makes me feel better that it might just be a lack of fluid issue rather than the actual pump.Tho that just leaves me the prob of getting it home lol. Cheers for the advice. Whenever I manage to get it home I will check it out Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyman 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 I always carry emergency PSF Halfords stuff is ok and cheapest... Link to post Share on other sites
filtee 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 You can still drive it. It will obviously just be harder to steer. The faster you go the easier it will turn. Get your foot down. lol Link to post Share on other sites
filtee 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Is it definately a whine and not a squeel? Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Now that you mention it, it prob is more of a squeal but you can kinda tell its something motorised if you know what i mean? Link to post Share on other sites
filtee 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 It sound like the belt is slipping to me. Just have a look with the engine running and someone turning the wheel. I bought a caddy van in april and thought i needed a pump until someone pointed out the belt was loose. 5 min job to tighten. job done. Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 tbh u cant really turn the wheel, engine running or not, whenver you try u just get that noise, luckily am wi aa so looks like am gonna use them for the 1st time woohoo, get my moneys worth lol Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 ps is it not supposed to by hydraulic fluid for the steering? or does it not matter thatmuch? Link to post Share on other sites
filtee 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 You wont be able to turn it if the car isnt moving. Like i said, start it up and set off and the wheel will turn because your moving. Have you not looked at the belt.? The squelling noise is the belt slipping on the pulley. It just needs tightening. I suppose you could call the AA and they could tighten it or do it yourself and spend sunday doing something fun instead of waiting for the AA to turn up. Link to post Share on other sites
VDub_Steve 1 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 You wont be able to turn it if the car isnt moving. Like i said' date=' start it up and set off and the wheel will turn because your moving. Have you not looked at the belt.? The squelling noise is the belt slipping on the pulley. It just needs tightening. I suppose you could call the AA and they could tighten it or do it yourself and spend sunday doing something fun instead of waiting for the AA to turn up.[/quote']You can't tighten belt if its slipping you will need to replace it Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Just phoned them and should be here within the hour, I cant safely jack it up here and its to low to look from underneath, checked level tho and theres plenty in there, probably too much by looks og it Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Will post up what he finds, he got 30 mins left Link to post Share on other sites
filtee 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 If its slipping its obviously come loose so why would it need replacing and not just re-tightening? Thats how it was on my old caddy van. Squeeling so i thought no fluid then thought pump but turnedout belt was loose. Loosened bolts on the alternator pulley and retensioned it. Are they different on vr's? Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yup they are different mate. Serpentine belt is used for water pump, PAS, alternator and air - con if you have it, all operated under one belt off the crank... As the tensioner pulley pretty much takes care of the tension it's self there's nothing to adjust so you'd have replace the belt... Link to post Share on other sites
filtee 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Oh i see. oops. Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 So home we are lolFindings, belt is ok. Managed to drive it home. Squealing noise when taking corners. No leakages anywhere when turning the wheel. Also no movement in fluid level when turning the wheel. Verdict, likely steering pump dead. Agree? Link to post Share on other sites
filtee 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Must be. I dont think theyre much for one from a breakers. Sorry for the dud info by the way. Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 No worrys, tho got another prob in getting a bloody pas pump!!! Pics on ebay pas pumps are different from those on euro car parts for example Link to post Share on other sites
HAMMER_VR6 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Could it be your steering gear? i have a whinning noise when i turn my wheel recently. Fluid is all topped up, no leaks etc. The noise seems to be coming more from my steering gear assembly. Pump sounds fine.??? Link to post Share on other sites
vr6_super 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 are u able to turn wheel ok? Ie u dont need arms like arnie to turn it? Link to post Share on other sites
HAMMER_VR6 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Yeah it turns fine just making a whine noise when your static and turning wheel left to right. Might be on its way out Link to post Share on other sites
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