MSV83 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 When in the 1000 to 2000ish RPM range the car tends to stutter does any 1 know why this is cheers.. Link to post Share on other sites
Peakz 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Check your plugs & leads then look at your coilpack.Millers oils do a very effective fuel injector cleaner for a paltry £4 toohttp://www.millersoils.net/index2.html Link to post Share on other sites
MSV83 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 when looking at the leads and plugs is there any thing in particular that i look out for....as for the fuel cleaner is this the injecta plus...cheers Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Rich 3 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Look out for arching. You should see/hear it! Usually place for it to happen is at either end of the plugs i.e. coilpack or plug end. Link to post Share on other sites
mightyvr6 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Could be the cam sensor too but check for arcing first using a fine water spray. Link to post Share on other sites
silverline 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 hii ve got a '94 golf VR6 with the same problem. mine tends to do it regardless of how many RPM's the engines doing, and it makes the head lights flicker 2? i ve changed the leads but was told the plugs were fine, the problem persists. i checked the coil pack for arcing ie spraying a mist of water on it and that seemed to be ok. not sure what to look at next? thought about taking the risk and changing the coil pack any way. Link to post Share on other sites
mightyvr6 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 I would change the plugs anyway if they haven't been done for a while. Have you plugged into vag-com diagnostics to check thet your sensors are functioning properly? Misfires on vr6s can be caused by a number of things. Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 yeah, it wouldn't effect the lights i don't think...i'd be inclined to think its a battery connection prob, maybe a loose earth wire, on yours silverline.first thing to do with a stutter is to spray water lightly onto the leads and coilpack at night to see if theres any sparks.next thing i'd do is is clean the ISV (obd1) and TB. then i'd also change the fuel filter (helped mine a bit) as its costs very little.then if it was still doing it i'd plug it into vag-com.i had a stuttering prob for ages, in the end it turned out that the magnet for the hall (camshaft/impulse) sender was coming apart....this showed up as a intermitant fault before eventually becoming a full time fault (at which point car went onto safe mode). prob i had was it was so intermitant at first that although it showed a fault code it was thought to be a red herring. Link to post Share on other sites
silverline 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 i did speak to VW about plugging it into their vag-com but they said all it would say is that theres a miss fire, it wouldn't say what is at fault. there r stacks of solutions to the problem, dont know where to start! Link to post Share on other sites
silverline 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 just tried the water mist on the coil pack and its definately not arcing. i have noticed that it only seems to miss when the car is warm? im stummped. maybe the fault with the lights and the missing are different faults? Link to post Share on other sites
Peakz 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 MSV - I was referring to Injecta Plus, it's damn good stuff!ACF8181's points re fuelling system are spot on.I missed all this hassle with my old GT TDI Link to post Share on other sites
silverline 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 ok. maybe a dumb question but what is the ISV(obd1) and the TB? Link to post Share on other sites
silverline 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 ok. maybe a dumb question but what is the ISV(obd1) and the TB? Link to post Share on other sites
mightyvr6 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 i did speak to VW about plugging it into their vag-com but they said all it would say is that theres a miss fire' date=' it wouldn't say what is at fault. there r stacks of solutions to the problem, dont know where to start![/quote']That's bullsh*t if it's being caused by a bad sensor. Link to post Share on other sites
MSV83 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 ive checked the leads and coil pack and there are no sparks, so wat should i look at next....will check the spark plugs tomorrow and possibly change the fuel filter. any thing else i should look at....o yeh forgot to mention that when the car was at stealth vince said that there was an intermittant fault with the mass air flow meter could this also cause the stutter Link to post Share on other sites
silverline 0 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 mightyvr6, i think they only meant with regard the coil pack. my local garage has a diagnostic tool which should pick up any faults but would it be best to put it on a vag-com any way? Link to post Share on other sites
mightyvr6 0 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 silverline-Yes that is correct. The coilpack is not monitored by the ecu so won't show a fault code. If your local garage has bosch diagnostics go for it as it should reveal if there are any sensors not functioning.MSV83- Yep, a faulty maf does indeed cause stuttering/misfiring but only diagnostics would confirm this. Link to post Share on other sites
apd 0 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 if not plugs connected properly to leads,maybe ISV clean,hall sender,crank positoin sensor.worthwhile going all round the enginebay/fusebox checking and cleaning all connections. Link to post Share on other sites
briscoe 0 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 isv - i think is the idle stabilising valvetb - throttle body.i would forget all that and check that you have good engine earths if the lights flicker this is almost certainly a poor connrction. clean the points of earth and check that they are on the battery properlygood luck,regs nick[ Edited Tue Mar 08 2005, 12:00PM ] Link to post Share on other sites
silverline 0 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 talking about poor connections the battery was replaced just before i bought the car. doesn't the vr6 have a strange ecu it doesn't have a self learn system or something? when the battery was removed the ecu may not of been reprogramed properly? Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 o yeh forgot to mention that when the car was at stealth vince said that there was an intermittant fault with the mass air flow meter could this also cause the stutter theres your answer then!to be sure i'd get the codes checked again (vw aren't the only place that do it, specialists can) and then replace it. Link to post Share on other sites
MSV83 0 Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 found out how much it cost....75 exchanged wid the old 1, gonna get it put in as soon as it arrives....will report how it runs after cheers every 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MSV83 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 well the good news is that the stutter has gone, but left a dent in the pocket...fuckin £83 for the mass air flow meter ~ . should be ok from now Link to post Share on other sites
silverline 0 Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 i had a diagnostic run on the golf this morning 4 faults appeared! the main 1 was 00532 - supply voltage to high, it was charging at 17.5 volts!!! so i went straight out and bought a new regulator to fit to the alternator hoping this is the root of my trouble. how hard is the alternator to remove? Link to post Share on other sites
MSV83 0 Posted March 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 sliverline....where did u get this done and how much did it cost Link to post Share on other sites
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