sam_vr6 4 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Looking into remapping my golf vr6 but have heard that the gains are minimal, is this true? Or can a remap give a significant power increase? Link to post Share on other sites
Daverse 175 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 if youve got the mods then yeah, i wouldnt do it just on its own, its more straightening out the power curve then actually adding power Link to post Share on other sites
sam_vr6 4 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Cheers for the reply. Makes sense, I don't know an awful lot about remapping, just trying to gather info atm. Link to post Share on other sites
Daverse 175 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 i would speak to jp automotive, or united motorsports, who are both on here. They can give you all the info you need Link to post Share on other sites
Woodyman84 3 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 id do this if it gave me more mid range, is annoying taking the vr to 4k rpm anytime i want to drive it without feeling like a slug bucket Link to post Share on other sites
sam_vr6 4 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Cool, folk on my local vw forum are basically saying remapping a standard vr is like pissing in the wind. Can be worthwhile though after you've added mods such as exhausts, cams, turbos etc Link to post Share on other sites
wardycatt 7 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 As a bare minimum, you should get a decent exhaust and air intake. I believe these are the only mods on my car, and that has taken it from the standard 174bhp to 191bhp after a re-map. And use high octane fuel (97 min) - this does make a small difference as well. Link to post Share on other sites
sam_vr6 4 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Isn't the standard vr6 exhaust fairly decent? Link to post Share on other sites
wardycatt 7 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I honestly don't know - mine was replaced long before I owned the motor, with one from Milltek. I had just assumed that it needed uprated on that basis (and that it's a very common mod). Quite a common first mod as well, I believe - but that might be more cosmetic / acoustic than anything performance-related. Vr(6)oooooom!I wouldn't expect many people to still be cutting about with the original after all this time, but maybe I'm wrong...? Link to post Share on other sites
sam_vr6 4 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 There's still plenty standard exhausts out there, and of course on cars that are kept standard. I knew exhausts (and air intake) are common first mods on vr6s but not sure though if there is much improvement other than sound with a new exhaust. I've noticed too milltek is a very popular choice. I've owned my vr since beginning of August and it was completely standard when I got it. Wanting to do it up but trying to work out exactly what I want to do first. So far all I've done is replace the number plates and fit holders and got new wheels which will go on complete with new tyres after the winter. Link to post Share on other sites
sam_vr6 4 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 ....I wish there was a way I could "like/thumbs up" that word vr(6)ooooom on this forum btw Link to post Share on other sites
Daverse 175 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 milltek are a good choice for exhaust, as for differences it will be slightly bigger, relieving back pressue, which the remapper should compensate for in the remap.. Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 In my honest opinion its not an advisable thing to do at the minute nor is it worth it. Start with a filter then a decent exhaust. Even at this stage I wouldn't consider a remap. The reason being the next sensible mod to go for is either some tasty cams which can cause a lumpy idle depending on what type you get or forced induction and these two mods will definitely benefit from a remap. This is just my view....Although if you can bolt on an exhaust and air filter then get a remap and hit 191BHP that is some nice figures naturally aspirated.... Throw a shrick manifold on that baby and watch the drive completely change! Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 The VR6 can be made to feel less sluggardly low down by combining good cams (such as the 263s) and a heap more ignition advance in the light throttle areas. The latter is VERY low (for a mild 10:1 compression engine) in the standard map.As for exhausts, certainly the Corrado's stock system is very good.I remember some years ago pulling off my standard system (still leak and rot free after 12 years) and fitting a SuperSprint in it's place. As a bog standard car, it made 199hp and 190 torques. With the Supersprint, it *lost* 3hp.Maybe it's just the Golf's exhaust which isn't all that as people do seem to find a few ponies after binning it? Link to post Share on other sites
sam_vr6 4 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
sam_vr6 4 Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Thanks for all the informative replies folks! Link to post Share on other sites
BigDaddy 0 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 i would just chuck the standard golf exhaust and get a raceland 6-1 branch and a miltek/remuse/supersprint catback with a decat and centre box delete, then get either a k&n filtre or BMC CDA system then look into the remap to get the best out of the mods because on there own they dont gain might even lose without the re-mapping. but the guys are right cams are a must and the final drive in the gearbox with make it better. if you want even turbo or supercharge it Link to post Share on other sites
wardycatt 7 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 In terms of BHP per £££, forced induction is going to give better value for money as long as you can do a slum-dog turbo conversion. That's my theory at least. My reasoning is that cams and a Schrick manifold are expensive pieces of kit, and with those installed (and a re-map) your N/A car is likely to get about 210 - 220 bhp max. (correct me if I'm wrong). A cheap-ass turbo conversion where you do all the labour is going to cost about a grand (no more, I hope!), however you probably wouldn't go to all the trouble of a turbo conversion to only put out 220bhp! My personal aim is a modest 250bhp from a spartan turbo setup. Therefore, if you're spending almost a grand on fancy cams and manifolds etc., you may as well turbo the thing - In my humble opinion, of course (I'm sure this is open to debate). This is basically my plan for my relatively-standard Golf Mk.3... so what we appear to be saying is; apart from the new exhaust, air intake, cams, manifold, final drive and some form of forced induction, just leave your car as standard! :-) Link to post Share on other sites
BigDaddy 0 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 hahah i like your plan! but dont you have to remap it for the turbo to work properly? Link to post Share on other sites
Daverse 175 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 yeah you will, unless your running super low boost.. Link to post Share on other sites
dogyy13 0 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 can it be done?remapping a vr6 2.8 obd1 dizzy?someone told me it can't,it's nothing to gain Link to post Share on other sites
mattvr6 133 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Obd2s generally kick out 185/190 bhp any way,most vr6s I've seen hav always been more than the quoted 174! As for turbos I carried one out on a highline for my cousin that made 268 without a map,he later broke the car due to the dreaded rot,I know have the kit in the garage waiting to go on mine. Link to post Share on other sites
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