Nazzas VR6 Golf...Phase one.

[Nazza27 35]

You're obd2 aren't you? If so why don't you just get the 312mm carriers and 312mm discs?

 

What do you mean by the carriers? And if i did up the disc size would i not also need new calipers? If so it will probably be too much for me too afford unfortunately. 

[Lukey. 381]

The carriers are the frame that space the calliper out to the right place, look in the 312mm brakes sticky in the wheels and brakes section. The 288mm callipers are essentially the same, the pads for each are the exact same pad.

So if you are obd2 you don't change your callipers you just get the 312mm spaced carriers and the bigger discs from a mk4 era car that had 312s ie S3, TT, mk4 GTI anni, Octavia VRS

Edited December 9, 2013 by Lukey.

[Nazza27 35]

Does not sound too bad that then. Seems like a sensible option really, and hopefully not too costly. 

 

Will look more into it in the new year, as I have ran out of money due too Christmas... I am hoping to get brakes and coilovers next and hopefully fix it all in one hit  

 

Thanks for all your help though Lukey. 

[Nazza27 35]

After buying and collecting some new suspension (coilovers) for the vr, i set about trying to take the old ones off. My days, I don't think any of the bolts have ever seen grease... All are seized on and are near on impossible to get off. Managed to get the bottom two undone, however the top bolt i am having to chisle off/break it off.  (have only attempted the front so far....) 

 

To help myself though, I decided to remove the disk/calipers as i am changing all the brakes for new ones, and somehow, the calipers and disc all came off as one...The pads are stuck to discs, which is annoying.  Plus, the disc didnt seem to be held in place by anything. (i.e. retaining bolt) 

 

But thats it for now. Will be attempting to carry on the removal of suspension over next few days. 

 

Cheers for reading. 

[Nazza27 35]

Oh, also bought new top mounts to replace old ones seeing as im doing the suspension, nothing exciting, just standard replacements. 

[Marneus 78]

In all the Golfs that I've owned I've only had 2 that didn't need the front top nuts chiseling/cutting off. For some reason they all seem to rust solid & become one with the top shaft of the damper. I bought a special, fine chisel just for doing this & I hate it every time!

[Nazza27 35]

In all the Golfs that I've owned I've only had 2 that didn't need the front top nuts chiseling/cutting off. For some reason they all seem to rust solid & become one with the top shaft of the damper. I bought a special, fine chisel just for doing this & I hate it every time!

 

I guess thats a bit easier on me knowing its not just this shit thing... haha. I appear to be annoying my neiaghbors though with the constant hammering, but i am getting somewhere for now...

 

The rear is also a pain and full on seized. Has anyone got anyideas for that one? I cant chisel as its one bolt and no nut. 

 

Thanks

[Nazza27 35]

SUCCESS!!!!! 

 

managed to get the fornt and the rear driver side suspension off completely this afternoon!  

Im happy with that. haha 

 

 

and this is the old top mount for the front... it lost against the hacksaw....

 

next day off i will be fitting the new suspension on and then attacking the passenger side... see how that goes... 

[mattvr6 133]

Try heating the rear up they have a captive nut inside the axle that's 15mm can get a spanner on if need be pal.

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[Nazza27 35]

I have ordered myself some vented discs and some redstuff pads and they should be here middle of next week ready for fitting  Coming along now i think.. I hope. 

 

I also decided on the redstuff pads as they are good for cars with over 200bhp and i would be liking too increase my power before needing new pads. 

[Nazza27 35]

One of the failss on the MOT was the lower arm bush had gone. I Have been told by my local mechanic that it would be easier to replace the whole part rather than just the bush. In this case, am I looking for the "control wishbone arm" ? 

And would it be worth changing both sides at the same time for handling? 

 

Thank you for the help.  

[mattvr6 133]

Suspension arm mate is what ur after, labour cost should b lower than changing the bush so should save u a few pennies :-)

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[Nazza27 35]

I would be doing it my self mate. Well, having a go at least. haha.  Thanks though for that confirmation 

[Nazza27 35]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK3-92-98-FRONT-2-SUSPENSION-WISHBONE-ARMS-ARM-/280172400185?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AGolf%7CPlat_Gen%3AMK+III%7CCars+Type%3A2.8+VR6&hash=item413b938e39

 

Is there any reason why this wouldnt work on a vr6? or do i need too buy specific vr6 ones? 

[Daverse 175]

Vr6 and i think gtis are a wider track, so balljoints wont fit. Not sure about the bush ends

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[Nazza27 35]

Vr6 and i think gtis are a wider track, so balljoints wont fit. Not sure about the bush ends

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Fair plays then... Thank you for the help. Order a set of VR ones if i can find some. haha. 

[Daverse 175]

Might be worth just scouring local breakers or ebay and get them blasted and powdercoated? Thats what i did

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[Nazza27 35]

Im looking on Ebay for new ones anyway. They appear to come with all bushes and already black. Which is fine for me  

[Therusterman 59]

I've only ever seen the wishbones in black. Try and go for a known brand like Febi bilstein as the quality of those is good.

Are you doing both sides? Remember if doing the driver side you'll either need to raise the engine or drop the sump to get access to one of the bolts

[Nazza27 35]

I've only ever seen the wishbones in black. Try and go for a known brand like Febi bilstein as the quality of those is good.

Are you doing both sides? Remember if doing the driver side you'll either need to raise the engine or drop the sump to get access to one of the bolts

 

was the nearside that failed so passengers... was intending too do both but i may wait now until it does go. As i have just put the sump back on. Thanks for the advice though.  

[Nazza27 35]

SSOOOO.... not a lot been happening really. 

Went to fit my rear coilover today, and i am stuggling with it. As when i am going to fit the rubber mount, nuts and washers inside the boot, I am not left with any thread to fit the first nut on.  Heres some pictures to help explain my problem a bit more, 

 

The new coilovers thread are about 3mm shorter than the old ones, top one is the new one. 

 

 

All the space i have too work with, 

 

 

THe brass bit that seems too long, so i am wondering if, 

1) i can shave them down a couple of mm to the length I need, 

or 

2) can you get shorter ones? 

 

Thanks 

[Lukey. 381]

If it was me, it's only a spacer, I'd saw it down.

[Nazza27 35]

If it was me, it's only a spacer, I'd saw it down.

 

Ok then. Thought it would be ok but wanted others opinions. 

 

Thanks. 

[Nazza27 35]

Yesterday I managed to fit the rear strut after getting the spacer filed down about 5mm. After that I took out the old front brake pads to change them too the new ones, but the new ones look a lot smaller? even though they are the obd2 ones? 

 

Deciding too leave the brakes, stripped the rear out a bit and came across this in the uunder the seats, 

 

loads of glass pieces. Standard I think. 

 

And too top it off, a bodge on the rear strut (not the one I have changed I would like too point out) 

 

I am still trying too find some top strut stoppers for the front suspension but all the ones im finding so far are stupidly expensive. 

 

Thanks 

[Lukey. 381]

Yea that rear strut is totally the wrong way round, those pads look totally the wrong size, they don't look like obd2 pads to me what's the product number on them?