Ickyketseddie 89 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Ok so I changed the oil and filters on the VR today and now it doesn't start, it fires for a second and then dies. The battery's been disconnected for a while which I guess might have helped cause the problem? Anyway on VAG-COM it shows 17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer & 01177 - Engine Control Unit - 65 - 10 Unauthorised - Intermittent So the immob has obviously decided I'm not allowed to run the car. From what I've read my options are; 1) Replace the reader coil (Maybe faulty)2) Have the Immob on the ECU defeated (anyone know how much? United motorsport maybe?)3) Recode the Key/Immob using VAG-COM (Would need instructions from somewhere) So any thoughts on what's most likely the issue and best fix? Need to get it sorted ASAP as i'll be racing soon! Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 The immo black box has died, recoding the black box and ECU will likely fix it for one start and then will need doing again. This is VERY Common these days. Link to post Share on other sites
Ickyketseddie 89 Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Ok cheers pm'd you back. Talk about quick reply! Link to post Share on other sites
Jakeyb 23 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 if you call a key specialist .. there's one i use in Birmingham .. he can plug the car in and tell you which part of the system is not communicating correctly then you know which part either needs re coding or changing . Link to post Share on other sites
Ickyketseddie 89 Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Surely that's what vagcom reported above though? UM have confirmed defeating the immob will 100% cure it so it's getting posted to them tomorrow. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
jez_monkey 1 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I've got that '17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer & 01177 - Engine Control Unit - 65 - 10 Unauthorised - Intermittent ' showing up on mine after a vagcom scan too. Mine starts fine though? Link to post Share on other sites
Ickyketseddie 89 Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Hmm weird, mine never showed it the last time I scanned it to be fair though? Link to post Share on other sites
wsinclair87 2 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I have the same issue, happened to me on way back to Ayr from Santa Pod this weekend! Link to post Share on other sites
Ickyketseddie 89 Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Did you get it sorted. I'll post the results once my ecus back from UM. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
wsinclair87 2 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I haven't had it looked at yet, funds forbid until payday =( called the vw garage near my mates as car is there still and they said they can't get me a rough price on anything until it's been looked at Link to post Share on other sites
Ickyketseddie 89 Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Boo hope it's cheap! Have you had it on VAG COM?Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Did you get it sorted. I'll post the results once my ecus back from UM. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkFor as long as the problem is the immobiliser, turning it off will 100% fix it. Link to post Share on other sites
wsinclair87 2 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 yeah I got a mobile diagnostics out to check it over and came up with P1570 and P1650 codes, can't mind the description but it was to do with the reader coil Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 yeah I got a mobile diagnostics out to check it over and came up with P1570 and P1650 codes, can't mind the description but it was to do with the reader coilYour MK3 VR6 engine ECU contained P1650? P1570 is ECU engine start blocked by immobiliser. Link to post Share on other sites
wsinclair87 2 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 i have mk4 2.8 v6 4 motion but yeah that's basically what the description was Link to post Share on other sites
Ickyketseddie 89 Posted March 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Quick update to say its running perfect now UM sorted the Immob! Cheers UM. Don't forget if you want to follow my season with the VWDRC they'll be plenty of updates on http://www.facebook.com/caseracinguk Any supports appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Your welcome Link to post Share on other sites
richyboy 0 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hi Guys, a few months later but, I have the same problem which left me at the side of the road on the way to work! Whilst I am English, I moved to France ten years ago. Three years ago my Dad said "Come to England and pick up the VR6. it's yours!". Today, I found myself in the shit with the same problem that you guys had! I'm having some trouble understanding what you finally did to "turn it off will 100% fix it".She will start once after a battery disconnect and then BLOCKED! Disconnect the battery and, good to go ONE TIME ONLY!HELP!Rich Link to post Share on other sites
dale p 62 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Contact um mate they top guys and will sort for you Link to post Share on other sites
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