dave_424 48 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Hello guys, I just picked up a 2002 golf mk4 4motion with the 2.8 24v engine. The engine has 106k miles and full service history and I plan on sticking a turbo on it and aiming for 400bhp. I've built a turbocharged 900cc bike engine that managed 225bhp at 15psi of boost so I know the general ins and outs of a turbo conversion, but would like to ask some more vr6 specific questions. The plan is:GT3582 turbo t3 .82ARIntercooledHead spacer to get me to 9:1Head studsRod boltsMain studs (are these necessary?) Obviously all the other smaller things but those are the main points. So I have a few questions about the VR6, I was planning on building a turbo manifold that attaches to the existing cast manifolds, turns through 180 degrees and both come together to give me a top mount turbo position, I have read that people have made a good amount of power doing this, is this okay to do or am I just better off getting a cast log type manifold (china copy)? I can tig weld stainless with a back purge. Examples of the type of manifold I want to build is in this link http://forums.kilometermagazine.com/showthread.php?4684097-Pic-request-Custom-vr6-turbo-manifolds&p=62643152&viewfull=1 If I go with a top mount turbo, I expect that I will have to change the intake manifold, since I am 24V, if I go to a short runner intake to keep intercooler pipes simple, is there going to be an issue with the different port lengths or is it okay? I know that I will probably have to go to a 4" MAF housing, I would like to find out who is going to be tuning/chipping my ECU so that they can tell me what to do in regards to the MAF, so who will I be able to go to for tuning/chip? I've seen United Motorsport on here and also Stealth Racing but haven't seen much recent activity at a glance. And finally for this round of questions, since I have the 4motion gearbox, what clutch would you guys recommend that will handle the power? approx. 350-400ft/lbs. I see a lot of information for the 2WD clutches and they seem pretty cheap, but I have a feeling that the 4motion ones are a bit more expensive. All information welcome Dave Link to post Share on other sites
Mk3highline 287 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Hi you alrightI'm in a similar state of mind to turbo my 24vOthers with more experience with this engine will chime inSo far I've read that the inlet don't like big boostBut with that blower I'm guessing you won't be running much to hit 400???I like the low end torque of the standard inlet manifold so I personally would like to keep itI think you can get a maf housing of a mk5 r32 dsg which I think are little biggerThe problem with the clutch is more so with the duel mass flywheelI got a lightweight flywheel from ttv racing http://ttvracing.com/product/vw-golf-r32-mk4-lite/?type=flywheels&engine=vw-r32&manufacturer=volkswagenI only used a sTandard clutch as I don't want more than 300ft lbs torque So which 24v do you have is it the early aue single coil pack or later bde coil on plug? Link to post Share on other sites
dave_424 48 Posted November 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) I have also read that the stock plastic intake manifold can explode with big boost, I think that around 15psi will get me the power that I want. Coil on plug for me Edited November 24, 2014 by dave_424 Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Plastic inlets are good for roughly a bar of boost, 1.2 give or take. 02m clutches are expensive, ive spent a small fortune on them in the past as I have at least 400ftlb myself. Anything to take that kinda grunt is close to 4 figures I'm afraid Link to post Share on other sites
dave_424 48 Posted November 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 The stock manifold might just be in the way, depends on where the turbo is positioned. I had thought that the clutches were expensive, oh well it's going to need it Link to post Share on other sites
Mk3highline 287 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I was thinking above gearbox?? You won't have the coil pack in the way but maybe the throttle body and piping? You maybe could get the porche inlet to move the throttle to the other side? Link to post Share on other sites
dave_424 48 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 We'll I was thinking of mouning the turbo in the centre of the block at the back, I want top mount for the cool looks but also for maintenance etc. However if I do relocate the battery to the boot and get rid of the stock air box, there is a massive amount of room there that a turbo could populate, I'll be pulling my bumper off again tomorrow to check intercooler figment and pipe routing to get all the boost pipes and intercooler ordered and will check other possibilities intake manifold and turbo position Link to post Share on other sites
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