B4VR6 193 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) So I got my Passat vr on Monday. Get the heater matrix in on Tuesday. Dash back in on Thursday Mot'd and taxed on Saturday. Drove it to the nearest shell garage then drove it home. It's been stood over a year. And I haven't taken it over 3000 rpm. In 4th and a little in 5th it bogs down like hesitation then it goes. Oil temp was at 92 and coolant temp was at 90. Is it just a case of driving it for a bit to run it in again. Which I am doing. Not going to take it over 3000 rpm. Or is it something else. There is still some air in the system as the heater box is garrgerling a bit. Edited February 8, 2015 by B4VR6 Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 It does it at 2000 rpm in every gear. Link to post Share on other sites
Bealieboy 1,625 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 It does it at 2000 rpm in every gear.Any shitty fuel in the tank? Maybe look at changing the fuel filter? Then you stick an injector cleaner through it to clean the system up a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Took it on the motorway and it didn't want to drive with the revs past 2000 rpm (only went one junction) but below 2000 rpm it's fine. Do I need to set up the 2.9 throttle body and air intake since its on a 2.8 vr ? Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Any shitty fuel in the tank? Maybe look at changing the fuel filter? Then you stick an injector cleaner through it to clean the system up a bit.Going to put a full tank of v power nitro in as it does the same thing as adding injector cleaner. But I only put £25 of shell normal fuel in yesterday just to drive around in to see if it's ok. Oh yeah I only ever put shell fuel in and the tank was empty before I put £25 in which took it upto 30ltr. Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Could be cam sensor. Link to post Share on other sites
mistline 151 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Hi, I had a similar issue with my Golf.I have OBD1 with coil pack and got my hands on a corrado inlet manifold and throttle body. Ok, so long story short when i changed the TB I had the same issues as you seem to be having.As soon as I swapped back to the old TB it ran sweet again. I've just recently put the corrado TB back on, but I've also had it remapped at Stealth. It runs sweetly now and makes a hell of an induction roar Try a Golf one and see if it solves it, then go from there. Perhaps all it needs is a remap. I heard remarks when mine was being done like "oh my god the fuelling is all over the place". One more thing to consider is that you have a get a matching TB for your engine, ie if the TB is from a coli pack rado then it will only work on a coil pack engine. If it's from one with a dizzy then the same applies (the lads at Stealth told me this). I think it's to do with the throttle position sensor, apparently there's about 4 different types. Edited February 9, 2015 by mistline Bealieboy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bealieboy 1,625 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 I'm glad Mistline explained that! It was on the tip of my tongue though! mistline 1 Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Sound thanks I haven't got the original throttle body so will have to map it. Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Hi, I had a similar issue with my Golf.I have OBD1 with coil pack and got my hands on a corrado inlet manifold and throttle body.Ok, so long story short when i changed the TB I had the same issues as you seem to be having.As soon as I swapped back to the old TB it ran sweet again.I've just recently put the corrado TB back on, but I've also had it remapped at Stealth. It runs sweetly now and makes a hell of an induction roar Try a Golf one and see if it solves it, then go from there. Perhaps all it needs is a remap. I heard remarks when mine was being done like "oh my god the fuelling is all over the place".One more thing to consider is that you have a get a matching TB for your engine, ie if the TB is from a coli pack rado then it will only work on a coil pack engine. If it's from one with a dizzy then the same applies (the lads at Stealth told me this). I think it's to do with the throttle position sensor, apparently there's about 4 different types.Great bit of info thanks Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Would a faulty coil pack course hesitation past 2k rpm As it drive fine upto then. Even though it has a 2.9 throttle body and air intake on a 2.8 obd1. I've only had the car a week and bought as a none runner only needing heater matrix fitting. It's had New rad All new silicone hoses Both new cts New aux water pump New Bremi coil pack and leads Pcv delete replaced with catch canKnock sensor New header tank New thermostat New oil pressure switchesAir intake sensor New heater matrix. With the symptoms I don't think it's the throttle body. Hand it scanned last week and no fault codes other than front left abs sensor. Need help as not enjoying this hesitation. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 OH had new spark plugs too. Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Unplug the throttle position sensor and run the car again, do the symptoms persist? Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Unplug the throttle position sensor and run the car again, do the symptoms persist?I'll give that a try tonight Thanks. I think I've managed to narrow it down to either the 2.9 throttle body pulling too much air in or the cam sensor. There's no air leaks and the Maf sensor is new too by the looks of it. Bloody cars lol Pulls like hell other than the hesitating problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Bealieboy 1,625 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 I've done a 3rd gear rolling drag with Mistline and he beats me hands down with that rado inlet and tb. Get it mapped properly and you'll be laughing! mistline 1 Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Yeah I will do but haven't got the money for the map after buying the car and getting it on the road etc. I'll be keeping the 2.9 tb to put on at a later date. Bealieboy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bealieboy 1,625 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Yeah, after all, Rome wasn't built in a day! As long as you can get it driveable, that's the main thing! Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 That's what I'm trying to do. Before spending £££££ on it for power and cosmetics I want to know it's right mechanically. Bealieboy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Bit of an update. I took it for a 17 mile run. A few lights but mostly continuous 30 to 50 to 40 etc. I kept accelerating to get the temp up. And when I got home I took these pictures.Oil temp is good And to me the both cts could be at fault as there from Gsf not gen ones (I haven't bought them)The temp did go a bit higher but not much.Now if I press the throttle pedal a little it doesn't want to go. But if I press it down to the floor it'll hesitate then go like shit. Now I have fitted a heater matrix which still has some air in the matrix itself but the air coming out of the vents are just luke warm and after 17 mile should be up to temp and should have nice hot air in the car. Any advice on how to get the air out of the heater matrix with silicone hoses fitted would nice Thanks for everyone's help so far and more to come. But will get there hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites
Bealieboy 1,625 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Re your tb. Mistline said his car ran like yours prior to mapping, the engine can't manage the amount of air it's being fed via the 2.9 tb. He said his was like an on/off switch. Light throttle produced probs, foot to the floor produced big cheesy grins inside the car and many scowls from outside the car! Swap it to the 2.8 tb and it should be ok. Re your airlock, all I've ever done is keep manipulating the hoses till the res keeps a constant level? Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yeah got a 2.8 obd1 tb coming so will fit that. Bealieboy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
B4VR6 193 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Problem solved I got delivered a 2.8 tb which apparently has been ported. So fitted it which turn out to be a mare as one Allen key bolt has been rounded. So once fitted I took it out on a run and no hestitation at all. It's smooth right up the Rev range and holds its revs So I'm a very happy chappie lol Going for a two hour, 100 mile drive in the morning for a nice run. And then the same back on Sunday. bennyk and Bealieboy 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bealieboy 1,625 Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Sssssweeet! Excellent news B4VR6 1 Link to post Share on other sites
vr6turbo 27 Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I think it was the throttle position sensoryou can remove them and swop them over to check Link to post Share on other sites
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