Guest silyka Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Hi,I was wondering how would bora fair up against the Liberty 3.0 AWD from Subaru on a race track.I recently become a proud owner of a Bora 4motion and my friend bought a Subaru liberty 3.0 6cyl 6spd awd. So I am interested to know your thoughts.thanx,silyka Link to post Share on other sites
tinny22 11 Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 welcome i think you will come in second placebut your car is a vw it will last a lot longertinny22 Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 subarus have a fantastic reputation for reliability as long as u dont mess with it Link to post Share on other sites
4mobora 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 does anyone or all fancy puttin up a list of what exatly their 4motion has blown. away just 4 fun Link to post Share on other sites
VRob6 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 i had a great blast down cornwalls A30 on monday in my VR6 against a swiss reg golf 4 motion. i know he could have had me but i new the twisty bits better off the dual carriageway. got an indicated 125 out of mine though at one point. No harm, no foul.Ror Link to post Share on other sites
patpong_pete 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 so off the line and top speed vr6 lighter but 4 motion more grip and better tractionplus 12 valve v 24 valve?????? Link to post Share on other sites
petervr6 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 and 174bhp v 204bhp Link to post Share on other sites
patpong_pete 0 Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 obd2 has more than 174 bhp ?so come on pete u are the proud owner of both golfswhats better and why i will say the 4 motion is more solid built and saferthe dash nicer and love the blue dials will a BMC filter from vr6 fit on to 4 motion?pete how come your leather is not recaro was it import or option extrawhat mods r u looking to make? is the insurance slighty lower? Link to post Share on other sites
VR6_Dan 0 Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 my OBD 2 had 185 standard and once tuned to 210 (cams and re-map) it loved leaving 4motions, on the motoway that is, never raced one off the mark but reckon i would of been there despite mine only being fwd, taking into account similar bhp but 4motions are heavier! Link to post Share on other sites
4mobora 0 Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 didnt the later vr6 have a diffrent ecu/injection system or likewise thus giving a bhp closer to the 2.9 id bet if u did the same to the 4motion it would leave your 210 bhp vr6 fo dust lol Link to post Share on other sites
VR6_Dan 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 didnt the later vr6 have a diffrent ecu/injection system or likewise thus giving a bhp closer to the 2.9 id bet if u did the same to the 4motion it would leave your 210 bhp vr6 fo dust lolHA HA its not what you drive its who's driving it that really matters lol! OBD2 was a different management system i think they changed em in 1996, plenty of rumours as to whether OBD2 engines had more power but when i had 210 on the RR when it should of been around 195-200 that tells me my OBD2 engine started with 10 more bhp. Link to post Share on other sites
4mobora 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 lol m6 j16 sunday lets see no only kidding Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Lea 4 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 a standard vr6 odb2 is faster than a 4motion i have driven both 4motion is heavy and the 4wheel drive zaps allot of power get to santa pod that is were to find out for yer self Link to post Share on other sites
4mobora 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 i always wanted the mk3 vr6 but never got there money flow probs at the time but love my 4motionbut what over top of the line cars have to mover over to let us v6's past Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Lea 4 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 dont get me wrong i love the 4motion too and yes are cars deffo put red faces on top line cars every day Link to post Share on other sites
VR6_Dan 0 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 There both great cars no question there, if i could afford a decent one i'll be driving a 4mo everyday of the week! Jus sold my VR so sorry 4mobora you'll have to wait til i get my new car in a couple of weeks!! Link to post Share on other sites
4mobora 0 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 if you can find one dan the bora was a lot cheaper than the golf v6 but very hard to find i got mine for 3700. i recon the bora has a air of exclusivity over the golf imo i always try to lord it over the golf boys at every opertunity i get, you keeping in the vw stable for your nxt car vr6 dan?? Link to post Share on other sites
VR6_Dan 0 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 A friend of mine was lookin at buying a Bora, he reckoned you get more toys in the Bora than you do in the Golf and the prices are slighlty less! £3700 is a very fair price for a German 200bhp 4wd car. Any plans on modding it? How old is it?I'm buying a frends VR6 supercharged Syncro, decided i needed a more econmoical car than the VR lol. Still fancy that race? Link to post Share on other sites
patpong_pete 0 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dan why not just supercharge your vr6any syncro is going to be left hand drive?or buy 4- motion and get that superchargeddont get me wrong i love my vr6 black highlinebut its 1996 so 11 years old it will always keep up with most hot hatches on a straightbut around a bend fingers crossedjust my thoughts Link to post Share on other sites
VR6_Dan 0 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dan why not just supercharge your vr6any syncro is going to be left hand drive?or buy 4- motion and get that superchargeddont get me wrong i love my vr6 black highlinebut its 1996 so 11 years old it will always keep up with most hot hatches on a straightbut around a bend fingers crossedjust my thoughtsTotally appreciate what ur saying but if you were to see it you'd probably understand why. My mate has done all the hard work he's spent literally thousands doing it, its a show car through and through not just a supercharger bolted on, yes it LHD but the price im getting it for is worth every penny.I've just sold my VR i got £3600 and to have bought a supercharger with all the extra costs involved it would have been more than buying this Syncro which has the stage 3 kit on, has just had a full re-spray in mulberry, all the bumpers are flushed, tail gate flushed, porche rims sliverline x coilies and mulberry leather upholsted front recaro seats to name a few mods and i wanted to do all this to mine, that would of cost me thousands.I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to cars and this syncro ticks all my boxes bar the LHD! F**K it you only live once! Link to post Share on other sites
patpong_pete 0 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 sounds like all the hard work been done nice one when u picking it up show as some picsstage three charger so its kicking about 290 bhpwhats the quarter mile sub 14s Link to post Share on other sites
VR6_Dan 0 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Mid-high 13's it did get a low 13 but that was running 50 bhp shots of nos on top. Its just over 300 bhp. Plus you got four wheels gripping at take off so that improves 1/4 mile times. My aim is to get into the 12's with it even if it's 12.9 that'll do me lol! Link to post Share on other sites
VR6_Dan 0 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 He's leaving the NOS set up in bar the tanks and controller so will probably buy it myself at some point. Link to post Share on other sites
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patpong_pete 0 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 looks even better in the pics nice dials with blue lights bling bling steering wheelpaintwork looks mintand the engine whats that v9 superchagerlike the rear lights whats the front INPROSyour friend must have spent a small fortune on it i even like the exhaust its std i think with the twin small original back boxthe only thing its left hooker but then all syncros r!so well done dan what sort of cash did u pay if i can be so bold to ask Link to post Share on other sites
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