ASHP89 40 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 As above, which work best and which is cheaper to do? I know the supercharger is instant power depending on what turbo you use but overall which do you prefer? Link to post Share on other sites
matty.vrt 120 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Turbo all the way. A supercharger will feel like standard but the clock will spin round much quicker. A turbo will make the car feel like a completely different animal. Dubpryncess and VR6 Supercharged 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) This has been covered so many times dude a quick search of the forum will sometimes help you find the answers. Its all down to personal preference and budget! You can buy a 2nd hand charger set up for £1000-£2000 and bolt on 100 or so RELIABLE bhp. You can do a budget turbo build or buy a cheap chinese kit from eBay and get some crazy figures and destroy your engine in seconds. Or you can do the turbo build properly and spend over thousands for a reliable useable stupid amount of power. The choices are endless and every one of them yours! Plenty of build diaries on the club where folks have gone either way. Me I will be doing both as I have an engine I have built ready for the turbo but want the car back soon so I have bought a charger to bolt onto my current set up. Whatever you decide get a diary started and best of luck! Edited July 2, 2016 by Dave_ciw VR6 Supercharged 1 Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 Supercharged 104 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 As has just been said, it is all down to personal preference if truth bekown. I have a supercharged VR and the wife has a turbo charged VR. Mine is my every day runner/driver so I like the fact that it's nice and smooth to drive, but if need be I can still put my foot down and give it large. Now all depending on what you want out of the car/use it for will help you decide if you do more research (again as has been said) as with a super charger when it's installed the power you get is pretty much all you will ever get really, where on the other hand with a turbo charger, well power wise the sky as they say is the limit. As said it's all dependent on your budget? Me, I would say super charger as I drive my car all the time, if it's a weekend toy? Then turbo charger. The choice is yours... matty.vrt and Dave_ciw 2 Link to post Share on other sites
bennyk 1,238 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I bolted my Rotrex charger kit on in an afternoon and it makes around 300bhp, I could take it off and sell it for what it owes me in the same day I reckon, that's what I like about Superchargers. Dave_ciw, VR6 Supercharged and Dubpryncess 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ASHP89 40 Posted July 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Whats needed for a supercharger? Map? Fuel pump?? It will be more an everyday car as ive got a jap import scooby for my weekend toy Dave_ciw 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bennyk 1,238 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Whats needed for a supercharger? Map? Fuel pump?? It will be more an everyday car as ive got a jap import scooby for my weekend toy Depends on what charger and what boost you run, anything like this will obviously need mapping, though I kept my original Ecu, so that I could just swap it back in if I removed the charger, I've uprated my fuel pump, but only because I needed a new tank. But to be honest if it's a daily sell it, buy a Golf TDI and get that mapped! Link to post Share on other sites
ASHP89 40 Posted July 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Well whats a good charger? Im new to all this stuff as like i said iv always had jap cars or cars thats turbod. Its not really a daily as such, just that i want a car that i can just get in and drive when i go and pick the little lad up or when i go training as i have a work van anyway. So the list would be Charger (not sure which one) Fuel pump Injectors Uprated brakes Map? Maybe some cams if i have monies left Link to post Share on other sites
bennyk 1,238 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I run a Rotrex, which seems to be a good charger, the main problem will probably be finding a kit, most people tend to sell complete kits with injectors etc, brakes are easy and cheap enough if you go for something like a 312mm set up on the front, vr brakes aren't to bad anyway, maps are around £400 and pretty much everyone uses Stealth Racing in Warickshire for that. Link to post Share on other sites
bennyk 1,238 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I run a Rotrex, which seems to be a good charger, the main problem will probably be finding a kit, most people tend to sell complete kits with injectors etc, brakes are easy and cheap enough if you go for something like a 312mm set up on the front, vr brakes aren't to bad anyway, maps are around £400 and pretty much everyone uses Stealth Racing in Warickshire for that. Link to post Share on other sites
bennyk 1,238 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I run a Rotrex, which seems to be a good charger, the main problem will probably be finding a kit, most people tend to sell complete kits with injectors etc, brakes are easy and cheap enough if you go for something like a 312mm set up on the front, vr brakes aren't to bad anyway, maps are around £400 and pretty much everyone uses Stealth Racing in Warickshire for that. Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I would do injectors before pump. Get a 4 bar fuel regulator. If you are going to do cams. Do them before the map. The remap should be your final step. Do not buy a TDI . VRs fuck the world. Forced induction VRs fuck everything hahahaha VR6 Supercharged and bennyk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
bennyk 1,238 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Oh no@Dave_ciw must be on the Dave_ciw 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bennyk 1,238 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Err sorry don't know why my post is on here 3 times, Mods HELP! Dave_ciw 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Oh no@Dave_ciw must be on the Rather the opposite . First weekend off it since the Old Testament. Think that's the problem pmsl bennyk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Err sorry don't know why my post is on here 3 times, Mods HELP! Same thing just happened to me on anther thread. However I can only see yours once. Link to post Share on other sites
ASHP89 40 Posted July 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 How much bhp will i be looking at if i just did cams and tb? Id do the billet pulleys if they dont cause problems and a lightened flywheel...then if im not happy il superchrge ontop of all that...dont know were my money is coming from Dave_ciw 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Most you will get NA will be around 225. That's with shrick, cams, flywheel, exhaust etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 If you have a scooby running big numbers I wouldn't piss about with the VR it won't live upto the jap without forced induction. VR6 Supercharged 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ASHP89 40 Posted July 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Im guessing by forced induction you mean turbod? Its all different to me this vag stuff, but i did have leon cupra r running 370bhp running a gt3071r on low boost. Whats shrick? Or is that the name of the cams? And would that be a noticable gain? The scooby is 340bhp but i was going to get rid of it if i liked the vr and with the money off the scoob, hopefully around 6k i was planning on doing some some engine work to it Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Forced induction is anything that forces air into the engine. Turbo or supercharger. Naturally aspirated is the opposite where the engine breaths only what it pulls in naturally. This relates to all engines. Not just vag. The guy I bought my VR of replaced it with a Cupra R. He was soon calling to buy the VR back. I am on my 7th VR mate and I have slid them and bought more powerful faster cars. From big power 1.8t mk4s to 400bhp Supercharged Jags. I always end up buying another VR. I love this 12v engine. From the way it sounds to the way it pulls. Even if I get smoked by a modern diesel . VR6Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 A schrick is a manifold upgrade designed only for the 12v VR. It's a rare item these days. Adds a few bhp but not much. However completely changes the way it's delivered and the torque massively. They cost around. £1000. The views I get are. The people who have never owned one say they aren't worth the money for the power gains achieved and wouldn't justify the spend. Yet the boys who run them say the difference in the way their car drives is worth every penny. Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Bennyk the chap posting above has a great build diary. 96 VR first project build thread. I think it's called. He runs a schrick and a supercharger. This is his bay notice the manifold. ? bennyk and VR6 Supercharged 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ASHP89 40 Posted July 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Ye i had a quick browse through his thread and the changes hes done to it are remarkable! So the shrick is a different inlet manifold? Or the same manifold with a mod? I think i need to go in s supercharged one. I thought the vr pulled ok when he took me 9for a test drive yesterday, didnt blow me away, thats probably because id just got out my scooby and got in the vr..but it did sound nice and drive well..iv always had a soft spot for the vr6....oh and another thing....were can i get some crystal lights from? The ones on there are genuine hella quads, one has a cracked lense but i like the crystal standard ones...oh and some vr6 badges Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 I was in @VIW28 Monster when it was running 518BHP through the front wheels! He then blew his manifold to bits and fitted a short runner which allowed him to turn up the boost! Last it was running was 650bhp! Then the world is moving at a crazy pace! Gethins VR is a 24V MK4 engine running a huge precision turbo and its a crazy thing! The Schrick is a whole new manifold! Benny's attention to detail is unreal and he is a wheel whore! As said if your scooby is pushing big numbers a standard VR wont be impressed by a standard VR. If you have the coin and the time its easy to make these cars untouchable! bennyk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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