cadguy77 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Had a miss fire about a month ago, VW checked it out and it turned out to be No. 5 HT lead.This morning on the way to work, loss of power BIG TIME on the motorway. Sounds like the same problem has happened again.Is it common for HT leads to keep failing?And how much for a new set? Might as well do the lot now.... Link to post Share on other sites
ukdub 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Could be a spark plug that has failed.I had a 40k plug fail at 15k a few years ago Link to post Share on other sites
28v6r 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 If its leads Magnecor is the Dawgs... Contact Spark-plug.co.uk, based in Chester... Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyedinburgh 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 buy em direct from magnecor. Link to post Share on other sites
cadguy77 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 just had the car recovered back home, the driver (who seems a bit of a w@nker) ONLY listened to the engine while it was running and told me I had a terminal problem. Claimind that the oil pump was shot and that the bottom end had big problems, crankshaft and bearings are worn.Please someone tell me you can't tell all that just from listening to the engine.......... Link to post Share on other sites
fabio_vr6 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 well yea u can tel that by hearing the engine! Link to post Share on other sites
28v6r 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 ERRRR.. You don't wanna know.... Yes you can, You can be even more technical and ues a stethescope, most just use a screw driver to the ear bit.. no I'm not kidding... the noise/ vibration travels up the screwdriver and allows you to "hear" the problem.. as to what sound to listen for .. well dunno really Big ends usually knock .. so it should be audible without a screwdriver.. then again the bearings should moan if theres a problem... Link to post Share on other sites
cadguy77 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 damn :@ , sh1t !ill , f#ck %-6 , bollox , what a blunt ~ .Just as I had big plan for mods, this goes and happens.In need of a decent 'won't rip me off' mechanic to give me an honest opinion on the problem (there must be one out there).Can anyone on here recommend a mechanic in the south west london area? I'm in kingston, willing to travel (not too far tho). Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Ouch, what a pisser. Really sorry to be reading this, mate.I can wholeheartedly recommend the guy I get to do to do all the jobs I cannot tackle myself. He's been in the business for years and has worked on a wide selection of cars. He operates around my area (Hayes, Southall, Greenfor, etc).If that's not too far away, let me know. I'll call him and give him an outline of the problem as per your description and we'll go from there. Link to post Share on other sites
cadguy77 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Cheers Craig, might take you up on that offer.I'm gonna try a couple of local places but failing that I'll be in touch.My car will survive.. Link to post Share on other sites
badboyV6 4 Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Thats bad news mate- but it must sound really bad for that type of diagnosis!?!? Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 im gutted for ya (for more reason than 1) Link to post Share on other sites
cadguy77 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Didn't belive him at first, thought he might be pulling a fast one. But now he's got me thinking the worst. Just need someone I can trust to tell me whether the guys 5 min diagnosis is true or not. Link to post Share on other sites
cadguy77 0 Posted October 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Oh fcuk, oh fcuk,oh fcuk.Just drove my baby about 4 miles to get to a mate's garage, and........Pulled up, had a quick look and listen over the engine, still making an awful noise from the left hand side of the engine, topped up the oil, went to start her again, then....Engine bloody seized, plus terible electric burnig smell from the starter motor. :@ !ill ~Sounds like I'm looking at a rebuild or transplant. Mechanic's gonna look at it proper 2moro. I'm expecting the worst.I'm so fcuking upset right now... Link to post Share on other sites
badboyV6 4 Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 mate, that really bad news.... :-( Its not nice when things like this happen- sounds really strange though for engine to seize after putting oil in. Whats the mileage on it? Link to post Share on other sites
thegoth 5 Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 still making an awful noise from the left hand side of the engineI am so, so, sorry for you mate. Never had a car I really cared about until the VR6.But it does remind me of the importance of fixing the virgin chains on my 153Ker!TG Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 For the main bearings & big ends to get torn up and the engine to subsequently sieze, I'd say it was running with inadequate oil pressure, possibly due to an oil pump failure, or a drastically low oil level due to a leak. Oil pump failures are very rare on VR6s, but any moving part can fail at the end of the day.I'm surprised the dashboard oil light never made an appearance prior to the engine failing.Your best option is to get hold of a second hand VR6 engine (there are several VRs breaking at the moment), fit new timing chains and a new clutch to it and get it bolted in.There are several VW specialist workshops I could recommend for doing the engine swapout. Once in the workshop, the job could take anythig between 2 days and 2 weeks depending on how busy they are. Just one question for the others... Aswad's car is most likely an OBD1. Would an engine from an OBD2 car be OK to use as long as it's just the bottom end & cylinder head that are swapped over? Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 i had a crappy cav that seized due to oil pump failure id be horrified if the vr did it good luck gettin it sorted aswad Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 still making an awful noise from the left hand side of the engineI am so' date=' so, sorry for you mate. Never had a car I really cared about until the VR6.But it does remind me of the importance of fixing the virgin chains on my 153Ker!TG[/quote']chains are on the right hand side of the engine Link to post Share on other sites
cadguy77 0 Posted October 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Got it checked over, started again this morning, but bottom ends fcuked, due to low/no oil. No obvious leaks, only checked level the other week, maybe should of checked it more regularly. No oil warning light, and for it to happen all of a sudden has confused me and the mechanic.Mine's a late N 95 OBD2 116000 miles, so looking for an engine to swap out ASAP.Anyone got a spare one going? Low mileage preffered, but anything considered. Only really looking for a bottom end. Planned on doing some head work anyway. Can I straight swap a 2.9 rado bottom end?antera309> I think you are right there, heads and bottom ends are interchangable. Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK3-VR6-2-8i-BREAKING-FOR-SPARES-93-K-REG_W0QQitemZ4582774689QQcategoryZ9889QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vw-golf-vr6-2-8-highline-not-gti-16v-g60-rallye_W0QQitemZ4582353006QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://www.edition38.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=18293&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0Also, try these, they are a huge VW breakers and quite often get hold of VR engines:http://www.volkswagenspares.com/Check the VR6OC "Address Book" (from the menu at the top of this page) for more breakers.Also worth giving Simon/Paul from Strictly Dubs a call. They can supply and fit second hand engines and know what they're doing (they did the VR conversion on my cabrio):http://www.strictlydubs.com/And BTW, yes, a Corrado 2.9 bottom end will be a straight swap, if you can find one in good condition. You will get even more power if you fit the inlet manifold and throttle body from the 2.9 as well. Link to post Share on other sites
cadguy77 0 Posted October 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Cheers for the links antera309, very much appreciated.Might go for a 2.9 bottom end, dunno if the 2.9 TB will be a striaght swap into an OBD2 system imo Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Damn! I only just revisited this thread! So sorry to learn of the bad news, Aswad. That really sucks and I wish you all the best in your quest to resurrect the beast. Link to post Share on other sites
uber-tub 0 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 In need of a decent 'won't rip me off' mechanic to give me an honest opinion on the problem (there must be one out there).Ha ha ha whooo ahha ah. Sorry. Just the thought of decent honest machanics made me laugh. I'm sure there are plenty of honest mechanics and decent ones but those with both qualities seem the stuff of legends. Sorry to hear your car is poorly but I wouldn't be too quick to reach for the cheque book - the bloke you spoke to may be trying to rustle up some business. You do the right thing in seeking another opinion.I would hope there would have been more symptoms of the bottom end etc before the breakdown. Good luck mate. Link to post Share on other sites
cadguy77 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Found an engine, 61000 from an r-reg, Link to post Share on other sites
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