jaysVR6 2 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Any idea how much I should be paying for new rings plus fitting?As some of you already know, I've just had my head re-con'd and it hasn't fixed the smoking problem at all. Infact, I think it's aggrovated it, don't ask me how!If I nail the hell out of it i'm getting smoke around 5-6,000 rpm (and quite a bit of it). I'm also still getting smoke throttling on off the over-run and I can only put it down to ring ware. (Fuckin' crazy, I'll never go out and buy a low mileage car at a premium again!)I've had a compression test and all seemed fine but I can only assume its oil rings.The guy who did my head has quoted me around Link to post Share on other sites
28v6r 0 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 How long ago jay was this done, don't forget that if its been a complete rebuild then it will take time to settle and note, nor should you be booting around until you've done say around 1000 miles or so .. it will take time to carbon back up and settle down... all the edges on all the parts are new so be aware that it will take time to bed in... !sad Link to post Share on other sites
silverline 0 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 does the vr have piston liners or are the cylinders cast out of the block? Link to post Share on other sites
jaysVR6 2 Posted December 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I haven't had the rings done yet. As I said, I've had all the head done but it's still smoking and I can only assume it is the rings. Link to post Share on other sites
28v6r 0 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Nasty thought here mate... was the head skimmed at all??... just wondering if the head has been over skimmed, this would give a reading of good to too much compression on the cylinders and cause the oil to be blown out the engine....but then IMHO it would be smoking all the time not just intermittent...Other thought is buy a 3.2 TSR bottom end ..that would solve the problem now... would it not? at least then the bottom end wouldn't need machined, it would be ready to be installed... Link to post Share on other sites
jaysVR6 2 Posted December 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Dude, have you got any idea how much a 3.2 litre TSR bottom end is?!!! !amazed I'd buy one if I could afford one, and a charger!! Link to post Share on other sites
28v6r 0 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Sorry won't try and help you again.. Take a look at what your spending on "Joe Blogs Back Street Boy".. looks like hes doin' a fine job on your wheels...Crack on my friend Crack on.... and remember to build one of these engines "Properly" is approx Link to post Share on other sites
matth76 1 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Could it be your oil stem seals or valve guides? Link to post Share on other sites
ingham 5 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 when you had head rebuilt did you replace valves and valve guides? and if yes were they measured for toleranceif the new guides were on the large side of tolerance and the valves are on the small side of tolerance it will burn oil. i have seen cars brand new with this problem Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Whats also worrying me is if I've got a worn piston as well then it's getting serious.Worn pistons don't happen as a rule, replacing the ring is renewing the effectiveness of the piston. Bore wear is a possible, this would need to be checked while the engine is apart for new rings. Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 does the vr have piston liners or are the cylinders cast out of the block?Cast out of the block. A worn bore means over-boring and bigger pistons. Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Could it be your oil stem seals or valve guides?Above all other things Jay, you need to check this. If your valve stem oil seals were not checked/changed last time then smoking on the over-run is entirely possible. They're the cheapest/simplest thing to rectify if they're at fault. Link to post Share on other sites
jaysVR6 2 Posted December 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 I've had all of the work possibe done on my head I could. New valves, guides and stem seals (so I'm told!). Perhaps it wasn't done properly, now I'm starting to worry !sad Link to post Share on other sites
jaysVR6 2 Posted December 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Sorry won't try and help you again.. Take a look at what your spending on "Joe Blogs Back Street Boy".. looks like hes doin' a fine job on your wheels...Crack on my friend Crack on.... and remember to build one of these engines "Properly" is approx Link to post Share on other sites
28v6r 0 Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 No worries... I've known mine for around the same time and theres DEFINITELY some jobs I wouldn't let him near...tuning being one of them... !dodge Link to post Share on other sites
mk3anni 0 Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Jay,Ring up Stealth or The Phirm, both give free advice, they might be able to shed some light. Link to post Share on other sites
Valver 0 Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Were the new stem seals used genuine VAG items or GSF/ECP parts?... Link to post Share on other sites
jaysVR6 2 Posted December 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 I've now been told it could be bore glaze. As after I drive the car on a long run, say from Leeds to Plymouth, it runs like a dream around town, no smoke at all, then after a good 50-60 miles or so it starts to smoke again, any sugesstions? Link to post Share on other sites
RIX 0 Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 yesterday i found out i had a busted intake valve,iam going to reney the hole engine,new rings head,new big ends and chains an so on,on a motor like the vr its total stupid not to do everything at ones,cause you don Link to post Share on other sites
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