Desire68 0 Posted May 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Sorry your day did not turn out the way you hoped. Fingers crossed you get it back for the weekend and get in a nice Sunday afternoon drive :-)Oh man,the weather today was just perfect for it from start to finish.Gutted!!Mike. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Mike Tonge: give us more details, how do we check to make sure the "butterfly" is ok etc... ? im sure that we would all like to check to make sure that no one else is affected Link to post Share on other sites
Mangold 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I think we need Vince to add to this thread advising how to check them to put our minds at rest! Mike Tonge, I hope so!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Desire68 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 This is the problem Guy's,when the manifold is all bolted up outside of the engin bay the butterfly is ok and turnes freely.The problem comes when you bolt it together in the engin bay,there seems to be a slightly untrue surface which when tightened up,slightly warpes the chamber holding the butterfly flap causing it to bind,Mine wouldn't turne atall when bolted to the engin but was fine outside.So you won't be able to test it!as the only thing that highlights this problem is fitting it to the car! Not good realy!!Mike. [ Edited Thu May 20 2004, 10:28AM ] Link to post Share on other sites
Mangold 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I'm going to take a close look at mine as its fitted. Link to post Share on other sites
dubloke 4 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 really gutted for you mike! bit worried about mine now, as i've had it polished(as you know now) and wont be able to send it back to schrick should it be faulty surely! :-( hope all goes well for you mate and you get the motor back soon! Link to post Share on other sites
Desire68 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Cheers guy's,as I said,I'm sure that it's only a very small % of units that may be faulty.Come on guy's,be positive!! Link to post Share on other sites
Desire68 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Dubloke,you have PM dude!!Mike. Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Vince confirmed to me today that this is a manufacturing fault. Anyone who's having a problem with a sticking flap inside the manifold should get in touch with him ASAP. Link to post Share on other sites
Desire68 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Hopefully there won't be too many more!!Mike. Link to post Share on other sites
speedo 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Really gutted for you.... I`d be going spare, especially as you`ve waited till now to find out. It will be worth the wait, honestly..... third that about Vince... TOP BLOKE!! Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Mike Tonge: give us more details' date=' how do we check to make sure the "butterfly" is ok etc... ? im sure that we would all like to check to make sure that no one else is affected[/quote']Unpack it and seperate the two halves. You'll see the flap in the upper portion of the casting. At the back you'll see a pushrod and cam that connects the flap to the vacuum actuator. Push the push rod and you'll see the flap move. It will be stiff as you're pressing against the actuator's spring but the flap should not bind at all. Mine was catching slightly at the 8 O'clock position. The suction from the servo hose may not be sufficient to overcome the binding resistance with the result being a flat engine past 4000rpm. Link to post Share on other sites
Desire68 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 This would be a good test Kev,but if you have the same problem as i have then you won't know the flap binds until you bolt it all in!!Mike. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 grrrr, im not sure if mine has a problem, it doesnt really pull that well after 4,000 revs, and the actual push rod doesnt appear to move very well, it pulls the butterfly down! and the rod doesnt move anymore, could this possibly be faulty? Link to post Share on other sites
six appeal 53 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 [quote=kevhaywire: Unpack it and seperate the two halves. You'll see the flap in the upper portion of the casting. At the back you'll see a pushrod and cam that connects the flap to the vacuum actuator. Push the push rod and you'll see the flap move. It will be stiff as you're pressing against the actuator's spring but the flap should not bind at all. Mine was catching slightly at the 8 O'clock position. The suction from the servo hose may not be sufficient to overcome the binding resistance with the result being a flat engine past 4000rpm.Bugger this sounds exactly like mine! Goes like a rocket up till about 4,000rpm then feels like its loosing power/running out of steam? Doesn't always do it either, only in the higher gears, mainly, and when the car gets hotter even more so. I put it down to it needing to be chipped, but now sounds like its sticking. Link to post Share on other sites
Desire68 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 You Guy's need to let Vince know your concearns ASAP as when i spoke to him yesterday he said that mine and Kev's were the only two with the problem so far!!Mike. Link to post Share on other sites
six appeal 53 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Will give him a call in the morning. ( Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 this could explain why there has been such a mixed reaction with the performance of them? Link to post Share on other sites
Desire68 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Has anyone had the manifold fitted with the unichip or cams or even both with any success yet??Mike. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olly_K Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 oh crap. you reckon the whole batch are dodgy ?Godammit i hope mine goes OK ! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olly_K Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 mine goes in on wednesday, having VSR/CAMS/CHIP. i'll keep you all posted Link to post Share on other sites
Desire68 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Please do,as i had all that fitted and more!! Link to post Share on other sites
madmonkee 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 mines damages on the one face. On the main set of 6 inlet ports, ill have to dress it out. I work as an aerospace technition, Non destructive testing areo parts. Now if I inspected my manifold at the same standard i inspect areo parts..... it would fail. Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 This would be a good test Kev' date='but if you have the same problem as i have then you won't know the flap binds until you bolt it all in!!Mike.[/quote']Mine binded without being bolted up to the engine It probably wasn't moving at all at 4K then in that case!He would have called me if mine was in need of replacement, so I reckon he's sorted it.Sixappeal, possibly the case mate. The engine does flatten off slightly at 4K and then it should hitch it's skirt and start running again. If goes flat and stays flat, almost like someone has turned the taps down, could be your valve binding x) Link to post Share on other sites
eViL 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Typical. Guaranteed mine is Faulty.Last for Samcos.. Faulty VSR.. bent front Coilies and wheels..*tears hair out*Can we find a fail-safe way of testing the flap from Vince before we fit it? Please! Link to post Share on other sites
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