kobi 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 I have a totally standard VR6 (1997). The performance is adequate but sometimes i feel like the weight of the engine delays the rush of power.... like in some gears it seems to take a while for the engine to wake up. Guess thats just a nature of a 6 pot? Anyway the engine is sound mechanically so i know its not suffering from any problems. I want to start tuning it up but want some advice. I'm not going to change the appearance of the car as to be honest they look pretty boring and in a way this adds to the sleath appeal of the engine. I've heard a bit about the Shrick(?) i can add on, could someone who knows about these tell me what they are and how they work? (not in great detail though please!) Also what other simple mods can i make WHILST keeping the reliability! Any pointers would be appreciated.. Oh i nearly forgot.... i only have £500 set aside for my budget! Link to post Share on other sites
gazbrook 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 a schrick variable inlet manifold is out of the question then as you will need 3 times that amount for one, they give good torque, about 20 lbs/ft and are a good mod to have though, the best route to go down is , a chip, i.e amd, superchip etc, and a decent exhaust, which should set you back about £500 , maybe slightly over, a decent cold air induction kit, bmc (£150)is also a good mod, suspension is also a must, even at a later date as that is a major weakness of a vr[ Edited Wed Jun 02 2004, 05:17PM ] Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Unfortunately VRs arent cheap to tune...for £500 you won't get a lot tbh...a cat back exhaust and induction kit will cost £350-£500 but dont expect big gains. A remap will set you back nearly that as well and on a 97 you probably wont get more than 5-10bhp.If it feels sluggish in some gears... drop it down a gear or 2 that'll soon wake it up! seriously though the VR is a different beast if you keep it in the 4000rpm and above power band [ Edited Wed Jun 02 2004, 05:24PM ] Link to post Share on other sites
VRmonster 1 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 lol, not worth it in a standard car, but a lightened flywheel would spruce up the lower rev range, but at arounf £380 + fitting, its not gonna help you too much. would probably save up a little more and go for the exhaust/filter/chip route. and deffo suspension, cant shout that loud enough, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
kobi 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Only problem with keeping the revs above 4000rpm is that the tank of petrol will only last 100 miles instead of the 190 its giving me at the moment!! Link to post Share on other sites
kobi 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 mmmmm..... might just save up and get an M3![ Edited Thu Jun 03 2004, 10:41AM ] Link to post Share on other sites
kobi 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Anyone know of a decent induction kit?[ Edited Thu Jun 03 2004, 10:52AM ] Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Anyone know of a decent induction kit?[ Edited Thu Jun 03 2004' date= 10:52AM ]BMC CDA is a good one but costs £155, Ram Air are also good and a bit cheaper Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 If youve got £500 to spend go for the coilover group buy, theyll make more difference to the car than an induction kit or exhaust Link to post Share on other sites
kilokilla 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Only problem with keeping the revs above 4000rpm is that the tank of petrol will only last 100 miles instead of the 190 its giving me at the moment!!so wot you saying kobi an m3 not gonna be as juicy as a vr i cant see that meself mate. Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 nah, what he wants is a car that has good performance at low revs, so you don't have to rev the tits off it, and thus use lots of fuel, to go anywhere.shame cars like that don't really exist anymore. [ Edited Thu Jun 03 2004, 11:40AM ] Link to post Share on other sites
kobi 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 What i want is a quick reliable car, dont mind paying for petrol if i'm using the engine.But dont want to be shelling out £40 just to get 190 miles out of the tank whilst driving like miss daisy! Also my mate has a BMW 330 CI AC Schnitzer and even that averages about 30mpg!After my MK3 GTI i went out and bought a Volvo T5 (dont ask) and those things will blast the pants off a VR6 or almost any other car. I had 3 passengers once and a Boxster couldnt get past me on a dual carriage way (Andy - The one from Bray to the M4)... but the handling was shite and it was toooo big. But must admit it was one helluva motor [ Edited Thu Jun 03 2004, 02:14PM ] Link to post Share on other sites
yeeha 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 acf8181, they do exist - it's called a TDI.... lol Link to post Share on other sites
kobi 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Yeeha... ur taking the p1ss?? I've had a LeonCupra R TDI 150BHP for a weekend from work and whilst they may be brilliant on mpg... they aint nothing on performance. These are the same engines found in the GOLF GT TDI. I always assumed they would be quick but i was disappointed. Definately didnt make me want to go out and get a diesel! Link to post Share on other sites
yeeha 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 For a start mate, you aint used to driving s diesel - you need to get used to a totally different way of driving. Next, its only 150BHP yes, but EASILY tuned to a good tad over 200BHP, and something crazy like 300 lb/ft torque. We all know that in the real world torque is the daddy. OK, you might not keep up with an M3 top end or anything like that, but you'll EAT most things mid-range (and I mean you'll destroy them!) and all this with 50mpg? Oh, the added bonus is that you've also wiped the floor with some jumped up Paxo driver with his burd in the passenger seat laughing at him while he chokes on your burning oil..... lmfao Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Ive driven a diesel 25th anniversary golf gti and that was a LOT quicker low down than my VR or the VR with a schrick manifold that Ive driven... and it does 55mpg! Link to post Share on other sites
gazbrook 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 ugh we are back to the old petrol vs diesel debate again, i think quite simply if you want good low rev range performance, then a vr is the wrong car for you, unless you are gonna slap a supercharger or turbo on it (slightly over £500!!!!) , over 4000 revs they are very good which i like, mid range is where these babies come into life, i feel 2nd gear is good for the vr and the top end will see off a lot of turbo cars, if anybody with a turbo wants me a race , i either invite them onto a dual carriageway or motorway!! Thats proper racing, not going round 30mph hour backstreets like some of these saxo numptys Link to post Share on other sites
yeeha 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Aye, can quite believe it matey! Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Yeeha... ur taking the p1ss?? I've had a LeonCupra R TDI 150BHP for a weekend from work and whilst they may be brilliant on mpg... they aint nothing on performance. These are the same engines found in the GOLF GT TDI. I always assumed they would be quick but i was disappointed. Definately didnt make me want to go out and get a diesel!you sure it was a 150bhp version (remember theres 90bhp, 110bhp, 130bhp, and 150bhp versions of vag diesel engines), the 150bhp will deffo keep up with a vr6 until you get over 110mph on a motorway, the 130 keeps a vr6 honest...some mates have had them, gave me a right scare! loli do think the diesels are very good these days, but i can't bear the sound! Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 i do think the diesels are very good these days' date=' but i can't bear the sound![/quote']Wait until you hear the new Audi A8 V8 diesel used in anger then Funny how the diesel engine was the first internal combustion engine and now it's going back to that again. Flares and cardigans will be fashionable again before we know it..... everything goes round in circles.....K Link to post Share on other sites
yeeha 0 Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 lol @ kev...In all honesty, I think diesel is gonna be king in a couple of years, and will remain so for a very long time. As acf said, the noise from most TDI's is still a big trun off for most (myself included) but they're getting quieter all the time, soon they'll be nearly as quiet as a petrol....... wouldnt mind hearing that A8 V8 kev!!! Link to post Share on other sites
MURPHY 0 Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 unless you are gonna slap a supercharger or turbo on it (slightly over £500!!!!) Is that really all it cost to get it supercharged?? Link to post Share on other sites
kobi 0 Posted June 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 It was a 150bhp Diesel. And the sound was dreadful.. didnt want to putmy foot down as i didnt want everyone walking down the street to turn round and look at the car that sounded like a tractor.The curpra R i drove was only 6 months old. But even then.. it was run in and basically... i wasnt impressed... i think the VR6 is slightly overrated but no way would the Diesel embarras the VR6...except with MPG figures of course. Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 unless you are gonna slap a supercharger or turbo on it (slightly over £500!!!!) Is that really all it cost to get it supercharged??by slightly he means about £2k over £500! Link to post Share on other sites
gazbrook 0 Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 yeah sorry murphy, it was me being a bit sarcastic, if chargers were that cheap everybody would have one :-) Link to post Share on other sites
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