They stick out about an inch from the door frame between the 2 hinges, I've had a couple of mk3s in the past where they've been full of crap and leaves etc. that said it might just be where I live, being a country boy and all that lol Scooter, if you can just stick a pic up of the door opening on your car and I'll see if you've got what I'm thinking of. I'm starting to doubt myself now! I'd check mine for you but it's wrapped up and I'm just too busy until next week to lift the covers sorry. Pissed scanias by day, hungry dairy cows by night. Someone get me a violin!!!!