Thanks for the reply. I did give the starter a bit of a tap with a rubber mallet but not as hard as I would have liked as the whole thing has been chrome plated.. Have to be careful when doing anything, complete pain in the arse!! I'm not aware of anywhere that can test the starter, would like to know though. I do have another in bits which was a spare, no solenoid however, just wanted to know if this sounds like a starter issue or not, if so, the actually solenoid or lumpy bit! Thanks