i trounce one on the way to work with monotonous regularity! can be quite a quick car, having driven one, providing you keep it above 5k rpm in all gears, otherwise you may as well get out and push! nothing really starts to happen untill about 5k in the engine and its a pain in the arse to drive round town, a plastic pig would overtake it if its in the wrong gear and below 3k! dont like the revvy engine, certainly wouldn't trounce a mildly tuned vr, doubt thay would trounce a standard one tbh. the gear change is something else all together tho, beautifully crafted, slick and just where it ne