there is a guy on edition 38 who says he is running low 14s with a n/a vr... six apeal (LOW VR) its got a shrick and a few other things running about 215bhp... and dave lea (dlea) is gettin 14.5 with his n/a VR too. i did 14.6 pre charger with about 220 bhp BUT termainal speed was around 93-95 with the charger the terminal speeds is 103-105 mph mid 14s in an n/a vr are possible but very difficult mid 14s in mine as it is now means i fooked it up good and proper hehe