i understand what ur sating about losing torque but every1 whos driven mine agrees with me its never gutless it pulls from tickover makes peak torque of 175 lb ft at the wheels at 4500 rpm it also holds it better higher up the revs than stock (due to cams) it does drone on choke especially at 2k rpm but when its warmed up its not too loud and sounds feckin awesome when u stretch its legs it also sounds sweet as a nut when cruising especially below 2k rpm and on motorways at 3k rpm ( imagine a scooby crossed with a v6)