Since when is a 15 year abused prety much standard vr6 quicker than a mk1 type-r civic ( which was using all of it's 10 or 12,000 rpm or what ever they rev up to. Not moaning like just thought they were quicker than i've thought, and to be honest didn't think mine was that fast either. anyway pulled up behind one the other day at the traffic light's gave him a blip to give a clue what i wanted to do and yes he did give it all he had as did i but i had to keep letting of,f if it was a clear road i would of sailed past himeasily. Another one for the vr6's eh.